After A Shock Poll Showing Huge Support for Trump, Reuters is Changing Methodology

[Cthulhu 2020]

Breitbart is a lot fucking better than huffpost mate. Also what is wrong with the breitbart article? The information is accurate and a link to the source material from reuters.

Far right leaning conservative claiming that a far right news site is less bias than a left leaning news site.

Spot the problem.

[spinner981]

No, they really aren't. It's a conservative-driven site, that has been caught pushing an agenda many, many times. They even left their reporter out to dry in order to continue that agenda.

At some point the middle ground between left and right became blurred and is now called the right, sometimes the far right. Calling a lie a lie isn't right-wing.

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Far right leaning conservative claiming that a far right news site is less bias than a left leaning news site.

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Far left leaning liberal claiming that a far left leaning news site is less biased than a right leaning news site.

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Personally, if I see you calling a news site wrong based on your political stance, I am inclined to believe I should trust that news site, because basically everything I see you post is a fallacy. Just fyi.

[Deleted]

There is likely a "Shy Tory" effect ...

Pollsters got the last UK election very wrong. But I think inquests indicated it wasn't a Shy Tory effect, but a sampling problem. Nowadays, virtually no one answers their landline any more, so response rates to telephone polls are abysmal (less than 10%, compared to 40%+ ten years ago). Internet polls have very selective samples.

As I understand it, the problem with opinion polls nowadays is that it is very hard to be sure you have a representative sample of 2000 (or however many) voters.

[Bushtuckrman]

Whatshisguy was pretty big news about the voting your conscience thing. RNC was fairly divided, nowhere near what the DNC looks like though.

Yeah Ted Cruz who made political suicide by doing that. That was how unified the RNC was after all the division in the primaries that they have now shit listed the one guy that refused to unite. He was supposed to endorse as is evident from a picture of Newt's teleprompter when Newt went off script.

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Far right leaning conservative claiming that a far right news site is less bias than a left leaning news site.

Spot the problem.

I am center right actually but hey you get that. I used to be left centered until the left went completely insane five years back, a lot of us left leaning atheists were pushed to the right.

[Blade Wolf]

I think writing in Bill Clinton right under Hillary would be pretty great.

If you're a good artist, draw Bill getting a blowjob in the whitehouse while smiling.

[Bushtuckrman]

No, they really aren't. It's a conservative-driven site, that has been caught pushing an agenda many, many times. They even left their reporter out to dry in order to continue that agenda.

They also had Ben Shaprio and Michelle Ridges resign after trying to push their agenda against Trump. For a right sided conservative media outlet they at least source their material and stay factual a hell of a lot more than the majority of msm outlets. Your description fits just about every media outlet however.

[Cayse]

Yeah Ted Cruz who made political suicide by doing that. That was how unified the RNC was after all the division in the primaries that they have now shit listed the one guy that refused to unite. He was supposed to endorse as is evident from a picture of Newt's teleprompter when Newt went off script.

Wasn't there also one group of delegates that walked out on the first day as well because they didn't want Trump to be the nominee?

[Bushtuckrman]

Far right leaning conservative claiming that a far right news site is less bias than a left leaning news site.

Spot the problem.

lol I am not far right. I am center right and was more left of center before the left started to go batshit insane in the last five years with the new generation of young adults.

[Venant]

No, they really aren't. It's a conservative-driven site, that has been caught pushing an agenda many, many times. They even left their reporter out to dry in order to continue that agenda.

We now know, due to the DNC Leaks, that outlets like CNN have been caught literally staging interviews in which they asked questions that were written by the DNC. I mean, we know for a fact now that most of the media is literally a propaganda arm for the democratic party, so what standing does anyone have to accuse organizations like Breitbart of being inaccurate?

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The DNC, and by extension the Clinton campaign, have literally been scripting the questions which are asked in their staged 'interviews', I think this goes way beyond bias.

[Forogil]

Pollsters got the last UK election very wrong. But I think inquests indicated it wasn't a Shy Tory effect, but a sampling problem. Nowadays, virtually no one answers their landline any more, so response rates to telephone polls are abysmal (less than 10%, compared to 40%+ ten years ago). Internet polls have very selective samples.

For brexit they believe it was a combination of many factors: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9738
Including incorrectly trying to compensate for "shy tories" - called "reallocation of don’t knows" in that text.

The problem in a referendum and the coming US-election is that there isn't historic data to know how well the polls work.

BTW: If you want a joke read: https://news.markets/brexit/brexit-polls-wrong-20222/

[Cthulhu 2020]

Far left leaning liberal claiming that a far left leaning news site is less biased than a right leaning news site.

I did?

He was wrong. I didn't claim anything in my post. Stop posting bullshit just because someone you like got caught in a lie.

[unbound]

rofl

Breitbart doesn't care in the least about accuracy. They just wanted a poll that says Trump is winning. Reuters is changing the option to be in line with most other polls that are known for better accuracy. They changed the option from "Neither" to "Other/Wouldn't vote/refused"...they didn't drop despite what Breitbart says. Then again, Breitbart has never been known for accuracy in their own reporting...

That said, Reuters could improve their accuracy if they listed the primary 3rd party candidates as options. Breitbart should be happier about that since it tends to show better support for Trump when the options that will actually be on the ballot are listed.

[BuckSparkles]

I think the secret Trump voters are very really. I don't think most people buy into the "everything is 100% fine and better than ever" the democrats were trying to sell at the DNC.

I really, really hope he wins. Hillary is not Bill.

[Damajin]

Most people find it very hard voting for Trump. Having said that, considering how ridiculously unpopular Hillary Clinton is, he might just have a chance.
I mean... she does NOT look human.

Horror of horrors indeed.

[unbound]

Breitbart is a lot fucking better than huffpost mate. Also what is wrong with the breitbart article? The information is accurate and a link to the source material from reuters.

Highly debatable, but, and this will be a huge shock to you, there are actually a lot better news sources than either Breitbart or Huffington Post.

What is wrong with the Breitbart article? "The Reuters/Ipsos polling team announced Friday that they are dropping the “Neither” option from their presidential preference polls..." is a lie. The didn't drop it...they renamed it.

[Dystemper]

Look at the video Josh Frank put up showing all the empty seats during the DNC.. The media will have you believe that Hillary is doing great. I have a feeling she will lose massively

[Xar226]

Most people find it very hard voting for Trump. Having said that, considering how ridiculously unpopular Hillary Clinton is, he might just have a chance.

I think the biggest problem for Hillary is an enthusiasm gap. I don't know if there is polling to back the notion but just based on observation it seems like Trump's supporters like him a lot more than Hillary's supporters like her, on average. And when your choices are two delicious flavors of shit, that ordinarily will make a lot of people either not vote at all or vote third party. Who actually manages to get their supporters to the polls to vote for them is going to be a very big deal.

[Yvaelle]

If you want a "neither" option you can just draw a massive cock on the voting sheet.

I'm pretty sure they count that as a vote for Trump

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Horror of horrors indeed.

Personally I find the much more horrifying thing is when you all try to criticize a 70-something year old grandmother on how bangable you think she is (or should be).

There are a lot of things I criticize Hillary for, but her Kardash-iosity is not one of them.

[Forogil]

What is wrong with the Breitbart article? "The Reuters/Ipsos polling team announced Friday that they are dropping the “Neither” option from their presidential preference polls..." is a lie. The didn't drop it...they renamed it.

Not really correct either.

As far I understand they renamed "Neither/Other" to "Other"; so they didn't rename "Neither" - they renamed "Neither/Other".
If breitbart just had people who were better at writing half-truths they would have said that Reuters are dropping "Neither" from the poll; which seems perfectly correct - and misleading.

[Damajin]

I'm pretty sure they count that as a vote for Trump

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Personally I find the much more horrifying thing is when you all try to criticize a 70-something year old grandmother on how bangable you think she is (or should be).

There are a lot of things I criticize Hillary for, but her Kardash-iosity is not one of them.

That wasn't my particular aim at all, but thanks for jumping to conclusions friendly and example setting moderator. Reading the particular of the quote I responded to might have given you more context, but hey if you want to jump to conclusions and make yourself look not smart be my guest.