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    I don't question climate change but as the article states, they get a large downpour once every 500 years or so.

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    If loserana is sick of the rain tell em to send some to south Texas. We could use some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I don't question climate change but as the article states, they get a large downpour once every 500 years or so.
    Actually the article said there has been at least 8 of these events in the USA in the past year.

    The "point" of the article is summed up at the end:
    Statistical calculations like these make a major assumption: That the climate of the past is the same as the climate of today. That’s no longer a very good assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Actually the article said there has been at least 8 of these events in the USA in the past year.

    The "point" of the article is summed up at the end:
    Statistical calculations like these make a major assumption: That the climate of the past is the same as the climate of today. That’s no longer a very good assumption.
    Louisiana has always had floods. My entire life, there have been floods, and my mom has told me stories about floods from when she was a child. When she lived in New Orleans as a child, their street and area flooded on a regular basis. This actually isn't very new. Only thing that's weird is that it's not a hurricane or tropical storm bringing the flooding in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    Louisiana has always had floods. My entire life, there have been floods, and my mom has told me stories about floods from when she was a child. When she lived in New Orleans as a child, their street and area flooded on a regular basis. This actually isn't very new. Only thing that's weird is that it's not a hurricane or tropical storm bringing the flooding in.
    No, the weird thing is the volume of rain that fell in x amount of time. Not that "Louisiana always floods". You're missing the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    No, the weird thing is the volume of rain that fell in x amount of time. Not that "Louisiana always floods". You're missing the point.
    I'm thinking you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    I'm thinking you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
    I'm thinking reading comprehension ain't your strong suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    I'm thinking reading comprehension ain't your strong suit.
    I think you're trying to push a personal agenda and getting into an argument over nothing. No one gives a shit. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelliak View Post
    I think you're trying to push a personal agenda and getting into an argument over nothing. No one gives a shit. Get over it.

    When we have freezes in the middle of a hot Texas summer we'll give you a handjob, satisfied?
    How am I trying to push a personal agenda? I'm just saying the report was more than "lol it rained". Also, if you didn't give a shit you wouldn't post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    How am I trying to push a personal agenda? I'm just saying the report was more than "lol it rained". Also, if you didn't give a shit you wouldn't post.
    As in, I don't give a shit about your doomsday crap. Most people don't.

    It's rain. Get the fuck over it. Doesn't matter if it's a bit strange or not. Like I said, if it freezes over on a hot Texas summer day I'm all down for calling it more than "just another" frost but until then... no. It's bad practice to use isolated weather events unless they're THAT extreme if you're wanting to discuss over all climate patterns.

    Simply because they can end up anecdotal and little else.

    It's like me using crime statistics of one major city in order to say that we have a growing or decreasing crime problem within the whole of the United States. You don't do that. It defeats your argument from the get-go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    How am I trying to push a personal agenda? I'm just saying the report was more than "lol it rained". Also, if you didn't give a shit you wouldn't post.
    There are actual measurable examples of climate change causing some extreme weather but you don't have any evidence that this is one of those events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    How am I trying to push a personal agenda? I'm just saying the report was more than "lol it rained". Also, if you didn't give a shit you wouldn't post.
    It's "lol it rained" because it's fairly normal around here. Sorry that you can't seem to comprehend that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    It's "lol it rained" because it's fairly normal around here. Sorry that you can't seem to comprehend that.
    If you looked at Texas as of late, particularly here in North Texas, you'd think we were experiencing some really bizarre weather with all the rainfall we've had.

    Truth be told, we've been in a drought for a very long time and it finally broke in a big way. Regions tend to go through spells. That's why they can't be used on their own as evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I don't question climate change but as the article states, they get a large downpour once every 500 years or so.
    I'm sure the locals recall the last time it happened, several hundred years before the founding of the nation.

    I think what the 500 year figure is intended to represent, is the rarity that such at thing could happen. It is so rare, it likely only happens that infrequently. They don't actually have rainfall records that predate modern civilization in Louisiana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelliak View Post
    If you looked at Texas as of late, particularly here in North Texas, you'd think we were experiencing some really bizarre weather with all the rainfall we've had.

    Truth be told, we've been in a drought for a very long time and it finally broke in a big way. Regions tend to go through spells. That's why they can't be used on their own as evidence.
    I mean, we had some bizarre weather in North Louisiana, too. We had places flood that never flood, and places that usually flood (I'm talking, they pretty much flood every single year) not have a single flood this year. It's been strange, but I'm not sure that strange equates to a pattern. Yet, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    I'm sure the locals recall the last time it happened, several hundred years before the founding of the nation.

    I think what the 500 year figure is intended to represent, is the rarity that such at thing could happen. It is so rare, it likely only happens that infrequently. They don't actually have rainfall records that predate modern civilization in Louisiana.
    We don't. However, we can actually establish weather events - particularly floods - through archaeological evidence.
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    Higher temperatures mean more water evaporating of the oceans/lakes/rivers/etc and more water in the atmosphere at any given time. That means what we think of as freak downpours right now will be a lot more common in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherRae View Post
    Louisiana has always had floods. My entire life, there have been floods, and my mom has told me stories about floods from when she was a child. When she lived in New Orleans as a child, their street and area flooded on a regular basis. This actually isn't very new. Only thing that's weird is that it's not a hurricane or tropical storm bringing the flooding in.
    They aren't saying "freak rain storm, therefore, climate change."

    They're saying "climate change, therefore, freak rain storm."

    It's a subtle but important difference. The rain storm isn't being used as proof of climate change; that already exists in spades. It's being used to demonstrate an effect of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    They aren't saying "freak rain storm, therefore, climate change."

    They're saying "climate change, therefore, freak rain storm."

    It's a subtle but important difference. The rain storm isn't being used as proof of climate change; that already exists in spades. It's being used to demonstrate an effect of it.
    We don't know that this is an effect of climate change is my point. This kind of thing has literally happened my entire life, and happened in my mother's lifetime, too. The only thing that's weird about this, honestly, is that it's not a tropical storm or hurricane causing the downpour.
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    I think you mean "not a named tropical storm", aside from it forming over land it has all the characteristics of one. While I'm not sure what part you are in but I'm in the Zachary area where we've gotten 17"+ just today (as the water trying to make its way onto my porch will confirm). I've been through many floods in this area since 84' and not once can I say "this has literally happened."

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