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    Quote Originally Posted by gushDH View Post
    When people stops complaining for absolutely everything, the game will become good.
    That's exactly how it works. When people don't complain, corporations put in extra effort!

    /eyeroll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    I dont imply that Blizzard has to voice over all the quests.

    But take for example now with the Broken shore and Kadgar quest, its like 50% of the content is voiced over and other is just plain text, it makes for a weird experience to expect voice and then the NPCs are just spewing text, even some important NPCs.

    Doesn't it feel like a unfinished product? it seems they plan badly and only voice over half of the content

    There was other MMOs that are fully voiced over even f2p ones.
    Because you've done all of Legion's content and thus have concluded that approximately 50% of the content is voiced/not voiced.

    Or more likely you're pulling a number out of your ass based on the one questline you've seen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishy View Post
    Except... he doesnt?
    What a compelling and flat out wrong statement.

    Listen man you can like something all you want, but if that infatuation is going to get in the way of you accepting the truth...

    There's the door! ===========>

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...f-Chris-Metzen

    That's from 2010. Google is your best friend sweetheart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Metzen#Roles

    The guy does far too many... and they all sound like Thrall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    The day complaints stop completely is the day you know that not a single person gives a shit about the game.
    LOL, whining = "caring"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partysaurus Rex View Post
    What a compelling and flat out wrong statement.

    Listen man you can like something all you want, but if that infatuation is going to get in the way of you accepting the truth...

    There's the door! ===========>

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...f-Chris-Metzen

    That's from 2010. Google is your best friend sweetheart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Metzen#Roles

    The guy does far too many... and they all sound like Thrall.
    That's not 90% of the game. Not even close, there is way more non Metzen voices. Secondly, lower the condescending attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    That's not 90% of the game. Not even close, there is way more non Metzen voices. Secondly, lower the condescending attitude.
    LOL or what?

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    "Half voiced over" Literally the only thing that's not voiced over are the scenes in Org/Stormwind after Broken Shore and the pre-expansion questline. Every quest and NPC in Broken Isles is voiced. Even the most useless ones. So no, it's about 98% voiced and 2% not voiced. Don't say "half" if you haven't played the beta and clearly don't know what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partysaurus Rex View Post
    What a compelling and flat out wrong statement.

    Listen man you can like something all you want, but if that infatuation is going to get in the way of you accepting the truth...

    There's the door! ===========>

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...f-Chris-Metzen

    That's from 2010. Google is your best friend sweetheart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Metzen#Roles

    The guy does far too many... and they all sound like Thrall.

    Your argument, if you can even call it that could just as easily be turned against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anqueetas View Post
    Your argument, if you can even call it that could just as easily be turned against you.
    Then do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partysaurus Rex View Post
    What a compelling and flat out wrong statement.

    Listen man you can like something all you want, but if that infatuation is going to get in the way of you accepting the truth...

    There's the door! ===========>

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...f-Chris-Metzen

    That's from 2010. Google is your best friend sweetheart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Metzen#Roles

    The guy does far too many... and they all sound like Thrall.
    Very few friends those characters appear in legion let alone in the same situation. I would agree with you in the situations where it's him talking to himself but this doesn't happen often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbound View Post
    That's exactly how it works. When people don't complain, corporations put in extra effort!

    /eyeroll
    Ya any all game improvements came as a direct response to the grumblings on MMO-C.

    Corporations speak in currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partysaurus Rex View Post
    Then do it...
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3993808/...=tt_cl_sm#cast

    Yeah....90%. Google is your friend, friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partysaurus Rex View Post
    Ya any all game improvements came as a direct response to the grumblings on MMO-C.

    Corporations speak in currency.
    And not all corporations function the same. It's not as black and white as you put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    And not all corporations function the same. It's not as black and white as you put it.
    Blizzard doesn't exactly have an excellent track record with customer service.

    They have an even worse track record with feedback effecting development.

    All corporations speak in currency. Your lack of financial support speaks louder than anything you could ever fill their ears or eyes with.

    The Blizzard Defense Squad is out in full force today. I really don't think they hand out badges for all your stalwart vigilance... I mean I don't know maybe there is a hidden FoS somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Yeah and those other MMOs wasted money on voice-overs that they should have spent elsewhere.

    The vast majority of players don't even read or listen to the quest text, we just skip over it as fast as possible. That's why the fast quest text option was added in the first place.

    VO is a waste.
    Really? And what, exactly, do you think they could've spent it on?

    More content? Perhaps a dungeon or a raid? No. The limiting factor on dungeons and raids isn't money -- it's working hours. Blizzard (and other MMO developers) couldn't just throw that money at their raid team and say, "make something else." That's not how it works. Indeed, those dungeon and raid teams are almost certainly currently busy working on future content. There simply isn't enough time for them to take that extra cash and turn it into a raid or a dungeon.

    Okay, how about more employees? No. We all saw what happened when Blizzard hired more designers: Same amount of content, same amount of time, just somewhat higher quality. Those employees had to be trained and learn the details of the processes used at Blizzard. By the time they were done, Blizzard hadn't gained the ability to produce more content -- just to produce higher quality content in the same time frame.

    Servers? LOL, not even close. "Hey, Sargeras-US is lagging a bit... why don't you go pick up some new hardware on your way back from lunch?" Yeah, it doesn't work that way.

    So, what else would you have them spend it on? Think about it really hard, because if you come up with some thoughtless answer, I'm going to tear it apart.

    Voice overs are there for immersion -- to draw us in. They're there because we, the community, expect it. Voice overs are, in this age of gaming, a required part of the whole. They take the time and spend the money because, if they don't, we'll notice. If we notice, we'll complain. They have to spend the money on VO. The fact that you can't understand this does not reflect well upon the point you're trying to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    As opposed to what? Silence = "caring"?
    But hey, prove me wrong.
    Whiners are incredibly stupid and immature people. Perhaps they really believe that they do care. They think they do, but they don't. Self-pity and allocation of blame is their emotional spectrum after all, it's the only thing they know.

    Stupid whining has nothing to do with appreciation, but only with immature personalities. People who whine are just seeking to load off their bullshit on others. That's what they really "care" about. They're leeches. Terrible people - weak and childishly self-absorbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Voice overs are there for immersion
    VO breaks immersion. It creates a disconnect between the player and the virtual world. The Uncanny Valley effect with VO is brutal. You hear humans, but there are none to be seen. Instead, what you see is something that hopelessly tries to emulate human properties. You can almost see a guy standing in the recording studio, reading stuff off of a piece of paper. The moment there's too much VO, it just all completely falls apart because it becomes so obvious how all of this is just a trick contraption.

    Abstracted and stylized characters like video game figures work better when they're not overexposed to banality. The other factor is that when you get too much information presented too literally, so that it can be consumed very passively, there's very little left to the audience's imagination. That's why books will always be more immersive than TV shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pull My Finger View Post
    VO breaks immersion. It creates a disconnect between the player and the virtual world. The Uncanny Valley effect with VO is brutal. You hear humans, but there are none to be seen. Instead, what you see is something that hopelessly tries to emulate human properties. You can almost see a guy standing in the recording studio, reading stuff off of a piece of paper. The moment there's too much VO, it just all completely falls apart because it becomes so obvious how all of this is just a trick contraption.

    Abstracted and stylized characters like video game figures work better when they're not overexposed to banality. The other factor is that when you get too much information presented too literally, so that it can be consumed very passively, there's very little left to the audience's imagination. That's why books will always be more immersive than TV shows.
    Sounds to me like you haven't actually heard any good VOs before. I would suggest the Witcher series. But I do agree, bad VOs can ruin the experience. Baten Kaitos was a particularly bad one for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoobistTV-Metro View Post
    More like 9/10. Every single artifact features voice acting. You have nothing to compare to that is legit anyway. No other game has content this good for this long and no other expansion has had more voice acting.
    And I wish warrior order hall stuff didn't have any voice overs...


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    Slightly off-topic, but I love Khadgar's "annoyed" lines when you click on him many times in a row.

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    There's more voiceover content in this expansion than any other in WoW I believe... going into every world quest it preempts you with a little vignette to what's happening for instance I was impressed.

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