Norway to build border fence with Russia to keep out refugees

[Deleted]

Russia has been weaponizing refugees. How do people think that refugees manage to get across the heavily defended Russian-EU/NATO border? It's because Russian authorities push them across and cart them north.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...abilize-europe



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/wo...eled.html?_r=0

Just so you know, trading unwanted migrants is happening NOW between France Italy Austria and Germany.
We're constantly sending people and taking people.

So yeah now you know.


Building a fence on the artic!!
What about polar bears though.

[zmp]

When Israel does it - racist apartheid state.

And accusing Israel for such things is considered anti semetism.

[Elim Garak]

Russia has been weaponizing refugees. How do people think that refugees manage to get across the heavily defended Russian-EU/NATO border? It's because Russian authorities push them across and cart them north.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...abilize-europe



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/wo...eled.html?_r=0

I thought conspiracy theories are not allowed here.

[announced]

I thought conspiracy theories are not allowed here.

is isn't a conspiracy theory if its factual?

honestly it'd be better if every country built 40-50 feet barb wire fences.. solves the problem of what to do with illegal immigrants since most probably wont try crossing.

[Deleted]

is isn't a conspiracy theory if its factual?

honestly it'd be better if every country built 40-50 feet barb wire fences.. solves the problem of what to do with illegal immigrants since most probably wont try crossing.

European values!

[Elim Garak]

is isn't a conspiracy theory if its factual?

Refugees coming into Finland via Russia? That's a fact.
Russia sending refugees into Finland to destabilize EU? A conspiracy theory.

[Forogil]

is isn't a conspiracy theory if its factual?

honestly it'd be better if every country built 40-50 feet barb wire fences.. solves the problem of what to do with illegal immigrants since most probably wont try crossing.

Norway isn't the first European country to build a fence to stop immigrants, and other countries have shown that it works (if someone really doubt that border control significantly reduces migrant flows - just look in latest UNHCR reports) - in combination with people guarding the fences.

[kail]

Waiting for results.

[Deleted]

Waiting for results.

On what, your blood test?

[jdbond592]

Wait what? No Russian refugees? Perhaps Trump can buy couple of them? Wifey number 4 and 5?

[announced]

European values!

while some people enjoy the refugees, many do not. countries should not be forced to take on refugees. they can be applauded for doing so but forcing a country to accept refugees is nonsense, hence the need for fence building

[Deleted]

while some people enjoy the refugees, many do not. countries should not be forced to take on refugees. they can be applauded for doing so but forcing a country to accept refugees is nonsense, hence the need for fence building

Share benefits, share burdens.
Or you can leave if you want.

[The5thVegetable]

Oh, Norway is trying to keep refugees out now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0

[Nyoken]

Fucking awesome, now do this everywhere to keep those border hoppers out.

[Uzkin]

Any export to russia is mostly hindered by russian problems regarding western stuff. Finland used to be regarded as "not so western" as to import stuff from us, but nowadays we seem to be "western" by default. If that means less stuff going there, then we just have to learn to live without that.

Yeah, it was very stupid of us to join the West's trade war and hostile rhetoric against Russia. We and our products used to have quite good reputation in Russia; they bought our stuff, invested in our country, and travelled here as tourists and visitors. But our leaders in their short-sightedness threw all that away, ignoring our own interests in favor of those of the US and EU. Indeed, the decisions made during Stubb's reign were probably the most damaging ones to Finland (in long term) any of our politicians have ever made in our independent history. Finland's foreign political actions in recent years have the potential to permanenly reduce us from an exemplary welfare state to a stereotypical poor eastern european country.

It only takes a quick look at the world map to see where our best chances would be. Due to our high production/labor cost, logistics, and short yearly growing season we cannot compete in Western markets: they already produce most of that stuff at much cheaper cost. Russia, on the other hand, is right next door and there'd be demand there for what we can offer (and we, in return, have use for what they can offer). Our only chance of future prosperity would thus be a flourishing relationship with Russia on all spheres. Alas, our "neo-finlandization" towards the west (= we being held in tight leash by US and EU) has pretty much doomed us economically in the future. The recent massive cuts in the educational sector alone make sure that one of our best trump cards at the world market -- high educational/scientific/technological know-how -- will be heavily diminished in the future.

It's ironic that during the era which our short-sighted russophobes and NATO-hawks refer to as "finlandization" our country rose to world-renowned prosperity and well-being whereas the "neo-finlandization" (which I defined above) threatens to undo all that we have achieved.

[Holas]

And accusing Israel for such things is considered anti semetism.

Indeed it is. I agree. Let me help you understand why:

If all countries are doing X and chose to pick on ONLY Israel = anti semetism
If all countries are doing X and you criticise all of them (or at least not only Israel)= not anti semetism.
Hard to grasp concept, isn't it?

If Norway will be considered a racist, apartheid state then you are absolutely correct and criticising Israel is fair play.
Shall we place bets if that actually happens?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

And they make fun of Trump.

A 660-foot long fence is a fair bit different from a 2000-mile long wall.

[zmp]

If all countries are doing X and you criticise all of them (or at least not only Israel)= not anti semetism.

Its still anti semetism. Israelis are weak little ones that newer do anything bad, and thus to criticise them is at all (even for being bad at cooking) is anti semetism. Poor little Israel.

[DJ117]

Even the right-wing in Europe would be considered left-wing in the US.

The right-wing were part of two world wars, don't be stupid.

[Deleted]

Currently learning Norwegian, and as a huge fan of their culture and a life long black metal fan- news like this bring smile to my face. Definately my no1 country to move to since I was 13.