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    Quote Originally Posted by endersblade View Post
    The problem is the way the military buys and plans out its purchases.

    It tries to find the lowest bidder for the highest tech, and plans out payments for 10, 20, or more years. The problem is, that tech gets outdated at some point, and by the time all the kinks have been worked out and we have them on even rotation everywhere, we could have paid a third of the price for them. Planes, tanks, you name it. It's so the gov't doesn't have to spend a huge chunk all at once. But then years later, they need to upgrade, but they're still paying off the previous, now obsolete hardware.

    and within that problem, they don't get the HIGHEST tech at the time, most of the time. They usually settle for second, third, or even fourth best - whatever is still leagues ahead of what we have, but doesn't cost as much as the top of the line.

    On the flip side, you have things like the F-14. That fucking plane has been on active duty for longer than most of us have been alive. They got their money's worth out of it. But they're all aging, we don't make new ones anymore. Legacy hardware isn't as easy to upkeep because we just don't keep the parts around - they have to be machined, which then costs money.

    The military just can't find that sweet spot of spending vs what you get vs how long it's useful.

    And all of this has been conglomerated into, fuck, people are tired of wasting money on last year's tech. People are tired of the gov't spending within the military. Nobody wants to reinvent the wheel anymore, because the contracts are pointless.
    that is the problem when you are the innovators of the world and dont rely on espionage for your military plans. besides what other way is there? buy from another country? silly talk there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invrlose View Post
    Except for the fact that it's a WAR CRIME to bomb hospitals.
    lmao at the thought of "war crime"

    definitely ignorant people there. must not be a real war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    that is the problem when you are the innovators of the world and dont rely on espionage for your military plans. besides what other way is there? buy from another country? silly talk there

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    lmao at the thought of "war crime"

    definitely ignorant people there. must not be a real war.
    The Geneva Conventions are applicable in any armed conflict involving 1 or more states, declared or not.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    The Geneva Conventions are applicable in any armed conflict involving 1 or more states, declared or not.
    wow 1st time i ever heard that

    how is the case going against g w bush? oh wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    wow 1st time i ever heard that

    how is the case going against g w bush? oh wait...
    And what section of the Convention did he violate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    if russia walks all over USA then why are they dirt poor and have no global power? now you being silly to get a rise out of people by spouting off nonsense. also usa can do anything it wants to russia and who is going to stop them? how them sanctions working out? sucks having to hide everything just to do business, drives prices up.
    You don't have any power. You keep losing wars and you are trillions of dollars in debt.

    But what is far worse is: you can't keep your word. You had a deal with Ukraine and you walked away. No one trusts a friend who walks away when they get in a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    You don't have any power. You keep losing wars and you are trillions of dollars in debt.

    But what is far worse is: you can't keep your word. You had a deal with Ukraine and you walked away. No one trusts a friend who walks away when they get in a fight.
    only in your head. ukraine wants us to go to total war over crimea? i did not know that. thought they wanted peace, u sure? u sure?

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