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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Coins View Post
    Do you really think you'd have to pay less taxes?

    That's pretty naive. You can rest assured that without the expenses the money would've just gone into politicians or other elite's pockets anyhow.

    Don't worry, nobody is stealing more from you than they'd otherwise.
    Nope, that tax money would instead be used on helping actual citizens and the poor of your own country though.

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    "Wir schaffen das"

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Nope, that tax money would instead be used on helping actual citizens and the poor of your own country though.
    Pretty rich coming from one who lives in a land where any kind of help for it's own citizens is "dirty communism", and the money must instead be used to line up corporations pockets, and fuel the war machine.

    You were saying?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Nope, that tax money would instead be used on helping actual citizens and the poor of your own country though.
    That's the most delusional thing I've heard all week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Coins View Post
    That seems like a pretty big assumption / myth there.
    Guess someone doesnt understand elementary school level math.. so Ill making it simple.

    Less money is bad, m'kay. To compensate, the government either has to raise taxes or cut other programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Pretty rich coming from one who lives in a land where any kind of help for it's own citizens is "dirty communism", and the money must instead be used to line up corporations pockets, and fuel the war machine.

    You were saying?
    Actually, Americans give more to charity than most other nations willingly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Giving_Index heres your proof

    I have a problem with coercion and using force "for the greater good" though. So yes, forcing people to pay for your socialism is disgusting but that doesnt say anything about willingly helping others. And yes, if people dont do it willingly, tough luck, welcome to life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Coins View Post
    They actually give less, much less, if you compare it to the total resources available.

    Also, you put a whole lot of faith in politicians. Do you really think you're going to get anything just because there is a bit more left over at the end?

    Your whole assumption that that money would've been used to help natives, or the poor, or whatever else is just based on nothing. There is no evidence towards it, on the contrary.
    So you believe theres a magic money well that just spurts out endless resources and there are evil capitalists hogging it? Where do you think the money to pay these leeches comes from then and where would it go if it wasnt wasted in this manner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Coins View Post
    They actually give less, much less, if you compare it to the total resources available.
    Completely irrelevant. Its all about the results and facts. If someone is helping more, they are helping more, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Actually, Americans give more to charity than most other nations willingly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Giving_Index heres your proof

    I have a problem with coercion and using force "for the greater good" though. So yes, forcing people to pay for your socialism is disgusting but that doesnt say anything about willingly helping others. And yes, if people dont do it willingly, tough luck, welcome to life.
    Actually, I'm not impressed by poll results where people can freely lie. How about some actual proof, instead of opinion blogs?

    This is just the typical tactic of having already opinion formed, and then trying to find whatever might support it, instead of basing the opinion on facts in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Actually, I'm not impressed by poll results where people can freely lie. How about some actual proof, instead of opinion blogs?
    Then the burden of proof lies on you as you accused us of being greedy. But some of us have to work so um.. my people need me *flies away*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Then the burden of proof lies on you as you accused us of being greedy. But some of us have to work so um.. my people need me *flies away*
    You know your own system, so you already know what I'm talking about. And so we come to the last ditch effort of "I know, but I'll feign ignorance and ask them to prove it to waste time, since I don't have credible arguments left"

    Nope, not playing that game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    550k ppl crossed border into croatia and not a single one stay.All they were asking is were is germany and sweden.That are not war fleeing ppl.Why stay on balkan were welfare is 100e max when u can get more in germany.550k ppl 0 stay.thats 100% statistic.Germany just need to cut the welfare little by little each 2-3months to motivate ones who want to work.Also nice job inviting them but not securing their safe path to germany,crossing so many countries and km NOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    Since you're not from the US, you must be trolling...

    In case you're serious, comma is for decimals and period is for thousands, in metric systems.
    Imperial is reversed.. Imperial you say? where do they use that? USA, Liberia and Burma!!
    Peggle is British and we use a mix of Imperial and metric, for numbers we use the decimal point for decimals and a comma for thousands.

    Also, the US doesn't use Imperial, hence why they have girly pints and don't use stones. I have no idea what they use in Liberia, Burma presumably uses Imperial.

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    Since you're not from the US, you must be trolling...

    In case you're serious, comma is for decimals and period is for thousands, in metric systems.
    Imperial is reversed.. Imperial you say? where do they use that? USA, Liberia and Burma!!
    in the UK we use period for decimals and comma for thousands, i wasn't trolling i was genuinely not aware that other places in Europe did it differently, i've traveled a bit around Europe but never really noticed they did it that way round.

    we have really lovely mix of imperial and metric in the UK, it makes everything so much easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watain View Post
    And more are coming. If they stay here they are a leech to the german society, if in a somewhat miracle they decide to work they will overtake the jobs usually done by Poles, Balkan folks, Romanians and such.

    rip vaterland
    Foreigners taking jobs from foreigners = rip vaterland

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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    So as American can I just move to Germany and collect loot?

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    We have 11 million illegals living in the US. Our social safety net is crap so they are all working and paying taxes.

    We're also getting flooded with Cubans at the moment but they all have stem degrees. Back during the Cold War we granted Cubans instant refugee status if they made it to the US and that regulation is still in effect.

    If I were Germany I'd cut benefits. The slackers will leave and the people who want to work will stay.
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    Most of them coming from Kosovo, Serbia and Turkey. So it's not the usual "Wir schaffen das" clientele.
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    What i read here is nothing else then stupidness!
    I see everyday refugees because im living in Germany. So can you people pls tell me where is the fucking problem???
    The reality is that Germany have a lot of fucking problems with racists and fascism again! Idiots are going to burn down houses where poor people are living.
    I dont care how America, Rumania, Hungary or other countrys think about our politics. Fact is that im angry about people which creating threads like this!
    And the only criminals i see are that idiots that going to elect parties like AfD or other rightwing shit!
    In the last months there wasnt any problems with the people came to our country. no, contrary they starts to work and to study now.
    So can someone explain me pls whats that for an bullshit the people here are posting?
    I thought for a long time that gamers are the new generation of our society, people living in the time of globalisation, tolerant people that will change politics. Now i see that dumb assholes and idiots from the rightwing who doesnt care about social politics found the to that community too.
    Its none of my business how other countrys people think what in germany happens, but stop your fucking rascist dumb Trump shit spreading out here.
    Since the fucking media started to frighten the people with unreal terrorwarning NOTHING happend... ohh, sry. There happend something... Rascism is spreading through politics and the society and fascism is growing up again!
    And there is one thing more i want to tell. Im rather to life with people from other cultures then with damn rightwing idiots that bring more violent to my country then every refugee could do!
    Germany will stay cosmopolitan! I give a fuck on what other countrys do! (except countrys like america and russia, theire politics leaded us to that problems!)

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    How long until Germany slides back into 3rd world status? I give it 30 or less. It will be Middle-East Lite at the current rate. Its quite sad really as my g-g-grandparents were from Schwerin and always wanted to go there to visit, now, unfortunately not so much.

    Enjoy multiculturalism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggidende View Post
    What i read here is nothing else then stupidness!
    I see everyday refugees because im living in Germany. So can you people pls tell me where is the fucking problem???
    The reality is that Germany have a lot of fucking problems with racists and fascism again! Idiots are going to burn down houses where poor people are living.
    I dont care how America, Rumania, Hungary or other countrys think about our politics. Fact is that im angry about people which creating threads like this!
    And the only criminals i see are that idiots that going to elect parties like AfD or other rightwing shit!
    In the last months there wasnt any problems with the people came to our country. no, contrary they starts to work and to study now.
    So can someone explain me pls whats that for an bullshit the people here are posting?
    I thought for a long time that gamers are the new generation of our society, people living in the time of globalisation, tolerant people that will change politics. Now i see that dumb assholes and idiots from the rightwing who doesnt care about social politics found the to that community too.
    Its none of my business how other countrys people think what in germany happens, but stop your fucking rascist dumb Trump shit spreading out here.
    Since the fucking media started to frighten the people with unreal terrorwarning NOTHING happend... ohh, sry. There happend something... Rascism is spreading through politics and the society and fascism is growing up again!
    And there is one thing more i want to tell. Im rather to life with people from other cultures then with damn rightwing idiots that bring more violent to my country then every refugee could do!
    Germany will stay cosmopolitan! I give a fuck on what other countrys do! (except countrys like america and russia, theire politics leaded us to that problems!)

    Yeah because only germany is affected by what Merkel did...... you are as ignorant as it can get

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