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    Sure, more people are doing lore master than raids. That makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaltherion View Post
    What Blizzard did in this expansion has proven to all gamers out there that raiding is dying alltogether, this is also tied to the fact that almost all the other MMOs are not focused on raids as end content anymore but instead the ''raids'' there are big soloable story events and the end content is mostly either a soloable boss or 4 to 5 man dungeons. Wildstar was the only one that tried to go oldschool WoW raiding type but failed big time and it's servers are dead.

    The fact that they put the ''Loremaster'' achievement behind raids means that not only the hard raids are done by a minority (normal/heroic/mythic) but even Raid Finder in WoD and MoP was done by a less amount of people than what they expected so in a desperate attempt to bring more people to bother with raids they locked the 2 last Suramar storylines behind Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold.

    This brought only negativity however, and people will do these 2 raids just once to complete the quests so i won't be surprised if the next step is to make Raids like the modern age - to be big soloable story events and instead the endgame content will be focused on dungeons, either mythic or whatever they bring up.
    Should change title to Blizzard has proven that people will jump to their own conclusion and will create salty tear threads regardless of what they do.
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    why so mad bro

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiyoKozuki View Post
    End game should be 5 man dungeons and equally as difficult 10 man raids.
    20 man raids need to go away forever and never come back, they don't belong in 2016.
    Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiyoKozuki View Post
    End game should be 5 man dungeons and equally as difficult 10 man raids.
    20 man raids need to go away forever and never come back, they don't belong in 2016.
    You really aren't quite fit for the genre I think. I'd suggest League of Legends or Diablo 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaltherion View Post
    they locked the 2 last Suramar storylines behind Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold.
    ???
    You kill Xavius to finish one, and the last storyline unlocks at 20k/21k revered and carries you through to exalted. You don't need to do Nighthold. You don't even need to do all of EN, just join a group for Xavius or wait for LFR and be done.

    Ill-informed dramatics.

  6. #26
    Raiding isn't dying. It's pretty much never been "alive" (unless you count LFR, but who the hell counts that?). Blizzard just wants it to be. They want it to be more than anything they've ever wanted.


    TBH, I think everything should just scale 5-40, save for ultra hard mode stuff and they should bring multiplayer scenarios back and those should also scale 3-40.

  7. #27
    Haven't raiders always been a small percentage of the playerbase?

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    [Insert thing here] is dying threads are never constructive

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