The "carry" selling is already in full swing

[leml30]

In the mood to run some Mythic+ but don't have a keystone? Well that's too bad because the premade group finder is now full of groups of 4 players actively preventing anyone else without keystones from doing Mythic+ dungeons. And there are more and more by the day.

I remember people saying that the reason there was so much carry selling for HFC was because it was the end of the expansion or because of the content drought. Yet here we are in the first week of Mythic+ dungeons and "carries" are already rampant.

Please do something about this Blizzard. Because its pretty much ruining the game for anyone who PuGs.

[Lochton]

Kindda difficult to control, though.. And well, not seen that many sellers myself, on EU that is. Well, except for raid sellers.

[MoanaLisa]

How does this actively prevent anyone from attempting to create a group for Mythic+?

[Lime]

I'm not sure I see the issue. People giving their keystones to the carry groups should have been a given. People will naturally want the more geared and experienced to help them out as the rewards are dependent on how well you do.

What do you expect them to do? Run with lesser geared/experienced players and potentially waste their current keystone?

[Blur4stuff]

I can't speak for the entirety of WoW, but for me I've been able to use my keystone and help others with theirs without anyone paying anyone else.

[Rafoel]

Indeed, this was a not very intelligent design by Blizzard... on my realm (Tarren Mill EU) Method is boosting anybody with level 2 key, you just have to /whisper them (they are making announcements about that on trade chat, lul).

However, you still have the guild. When sb from your guild has keystone and wants to run a dungeon, just join him. People always are eager to group with guildmates rather than randoms, as when random leaves mid-dungeon you are fucked.

[GrieverXIII]

I have a really strong feeling Mythic+ is meant as a guild activity.

[Grym]

What is stopping those without a keystone to form a group?

If the answer is "but no one is going to join", then you pretty much answered your question of why there isn'5 such group already.

[Deleted]

I have a really strong feeling Mythic+ is meant as a guild activity.

No, it's Easy enough to pug, atleast like +4

[Deleted]

Boosting players in mythic+ is the best case of win-win ever. I get to farm gear and ap, they get their guaranteed +5/+6 stone. Either boost yourself or get boosted, I don't see the problem.

[callipygoustp]

Sounds like an excellent method for finding a 5th that isn't going to bail before the run is complete.

[GrieverXIII]

No, it's Easy enough to pug, atleast like +4

I mean, that's the baby mode, so yeah. But i mean in long terms. I don't see people risking a +10 or later on +15 key over someone possibly leaving out of the blue or flat out sucking.

[Delaios]

Boosting players in mythic+ is the best case of win-win ever. I get to farm gear and ap, they get their guaranteed +5/+6 stone. Either boost yourself or get boosted, I don't see the problem.

As a pure DPS class it's nice to finally be in demand in the LFG system.

[Madcuzbad]

can i get dat?

[PowerGamez]

Carrying someone through a mythic + dungeon is fine. It's an easy way for someone with a keystone to get 3 chests. The carrier group gets 3 chests for free while the carried person gets guaranteed 3 chests and they keep their keystone intact. It's a win-win situation.

It's unfortunate for you if you have a depleted keystone and want to run more mythics but they reset every week so get over it. There will be plenty more content to run in future weeks.

I'm a bit annoyed though that I've already seen people advertising 10/10 M clear carries for $200K on US-Frostmourne.

[Deleted]

Oh great more pay to win, they might as well sell it from the blizzard shop.

[Teaon]

its a win-win scenario, give them your key, they give you free phatlewt and lots of ap, its better than " bring 895 ilvl for normal dungeon "

[Klingers]

Please do something about this Blizzard. Because its pretty much ruining the game for anyone who PuGs.

Don't ask here, go and ask through official channels.

In the mood to run some Mythic+ but don't have a keystone? Well that's too bad because the premade group finder is now full of groups of 4 players actively preventing anyone else without keystones from doing Mythic+ dungeons. And there are more and more by the day.

I remember people saying that the reason there was so much carry selling for HFC was because it was the end of the expansion or because of the content drought. Yet here we are in the first week of Mythic+ dungeons and "carries" are already rampant.

This is a fair point to make. Blizzard has never been very good with the social engineering, i.e. using game design to foster good community behaviour. Usually it goes the other way for them.

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Oh great more pay to win, they might as well sell it from the blizzard shop.

Wait six months.

[Nikkej]

If we are 4 players playing it well and can share that with others - who gives back by having a keystone - WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT?!

[Deleted]

They can do it, so why wouldn't they. Better gear = better, easier and faster progression when mythic hits (atlest it helps)
We are doing it all the time, so many legendaries dropping in these M+ dungeons when you spam them nonstop.
How about you join their group instead, and get easy loots?