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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by nukie View Post
    1. As a fire player, I'm having a hard time with frostbolt > flurry > ice lance. I will spam the flurry button waiting for frostbolt to finish and ultimately am constantly hard casting a second flurry when i actually want to ice lance. Any tips or tricks here? Or is it a case of learning to stop spamming keys (that is likely not going to happen).
    Use any cast addon and just press/spam the flurry in red area and then start spamming icelance, no need to spamhit the flurry.

  2. #362
    what about new legendary ring? you think is worth to use in combo with bracers or with hands? or better the older combo bracers and hand?

  3. #363
    Question, is going 2pc T19 along with 4pc T20 still the best option with the 2pc T19 nerf? or is it better to just optimize the higher ilvl gear from ToS

  4. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by Tema View Post
    what about new legendary ring? you think is worth to use in combo with bracers or with hands? or better the older combo bracers and hand?
    No, it's crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynika View Post
    Question, is going 2pc T19 along with 4pc T20 still the best option with the 2pc T19 nerf? or is it better to just optimize the higher ilvl gear from ToS
    About equal. The differences between the two are minuscule.

    Also: working on an update. Gimme time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni Zyrekai View Post
    About equal. The differences between the two are minuscule.

    Also: working on an update. Gimme time.
    ty. love your work

  7. #367
    Hey guys, fire mage here switching to frost for ToS because i am bored of fire. I am a mythic raider. I've paid no attention to frost since this new patch and im curious if hands and wrist combo are still the legendaries im wanting to aim for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathvisard View Post
    Hey guys, fire mage here switching to frost for ToS because i am bored of fire. I am a mythic raider. I've paid no attention to frost since this new patch and im curious if hands and wrist combo are still the legendaries im wanting to aim for.
    Shard+bracers or hat. Both are pretty close.

  9. #369
    Is there any upside to not going lonely winter in the new raid? Like any reason you'd want the pet's utility/nova. I'm coming back from a hiatus this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombkirby View Post
    Is there any upside to not going lonely winter in the new raid? Like any reason you'd want the pet's utility/nova. I'm coming back from a hiatus this week.
    Sadly no. Even if there were, the damage tradeoff likely isn't worth it.

  11. #371
    How are you ranking the trinkets at? This is what i got from raidbots all 900 except tome (910)

    Gear Comparison (DPS)

    Tsm - 1,009,704

    Tome(910) - 1,008,759

    900 vers - 1,006,491

    Terror - 1,003,119

    Charm - 1,002,380

    Spectral - 993,483

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aktec View Post
    How are you ranking the trinkets at? This is what i got from raidbots all 900 except tome (910)
    Correct me if I am wrong (which is more than likely!), but I believe you don't want to "On Use" trinkets, which puts Tome last should you have TSM, making the 2nd trinket we want to use as Terror or a stat stick.
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  14. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by Aktec View Post
    How are you ranking the trinkets at? This is what i got from raidbots all 900 except tome (910)

    Gear Comparison (DPS)

    Tsm - 1,009,704

    Tome(910) - 1,008,759

    900 vers - 1,006,491

    Terror - 1,003,119

    Charm - 1,002,380

    Spectral - 993,483
    interesting. while I know it's been said here (and many other places) that individual setup is important, I'm a little surprised at how different I am seeing my own trinket rankings. for the new trinkets, i'm seeing Terror > Tome > Charm > TSM > Spectral. The on use and the procs are surprising to me. My top two combinations are terror/tome or charm/terror

    Overall, I would echo the question on if anyone has a general rule of thumb about the BiS trinket combo or trinket priority ranking for the ToS trinkets so I can potentially spend my seals more wisely?

  15. #375
    I think one of the reasons i ranked terror so low was because it sent me way over the crit cap, I got one at 920 since and messed around with enchants/gear to get slightly below again.

    So far been sticking to this as well as copious simming.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...view?sle=true#

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    Thank you for all the work you put into the community.

    Great and easy guide.

  17. #377
    From my own experience and some researches I found out that:
    1. Tome has ~1% in dps list.
    2. Buff has 15-18% duration throughout the fight and probably useless since crit goes overcap.
    3. Int as a stat stick.
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    At the same time Terror has ~5% damage and TSM has aprox the same. Plus stats those trinkets have. What makes me think that Tome is pretty much controversial.

    About "On use" trinkets for frost mage.
    It's quite good since frost has 2 different source of damage: 1. kind of sustained ice lance damage; 2. Burst moments like openning. So, it's very nice to have a trinket which you can use for more efficient burst combo.
    Last edited by Jezrienx; 2017-08-01 at 10:31 AM.

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