Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell Blames Obama For JASTA Veto Override.

[cubby]

The chutzpah of McConnell - refusing to listen to Obama's warnings and then complaining that Obama wasn't talking to them.

His balls are both huge and dumb. And yeah, Edge, their base will probably accept this ridiculous mental gymnastics theory that Obama is to blame.

[Sky High]

ol' turtle neck being a piece of shit as per usual. literally one of the worst politicians in congress currently if not ever.

[Seranthor]

Seriously, McConnel can go fuck himself with a rusty chainsaw running at full speed. Fuck that man in every way possible. He needs to own up and take the blame for the stupid decision to override the veto (and initially vote for it), same with every Democrat that voted for it.

Talk about some serious buyers remorse and trying to blame someone else for your own fuckups. The Obama administration was clear from day one why this was a terrible idea, if McConnel and the rest of congress didn't want to listen that's their problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/us...bill.html?_r=0

Democrats in large numbers joined with Republicans to deliver a remarkable rebuke to the president. The 97-to-1 vote in the Senate and the 348-to-77 vote in the House displayed the enduring power of the Sept. 11 families in Washington and the diminishing influence here of the Saudi government.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00148

Here is a list of the DEMOCRATS that voted for this veto, (Count them, there are 42 of them)

Grouped By Vote Position
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Let that sink in 97-1, Only ONE voted NOT to Veto...
This Veto required cooperation between BOTH parties, and absolutely could not occurred if the Democrats opposed it.

[cubby]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/us...bill.html?_r=0




http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00148

Here is a list of the DEMOCRATS that voted for this veto, (Count them, there are 42 of them)

Grouped By Vote Position
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/snip
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Wyden (D-OR)

Let that sink in 97-1, Only ONE voted NOT to Veto...
This Veto required cooperation between BOTH parties, and absolutely could not occurred if the Democrats opposed it.

You're missing the entire point.

[GennGreymane]

Dear GOP,


(do not be mad mods, for this gif is relevant to what I am saying)

Seriously, the GOP is in its own fucking way for literally everything they try to accomplish. They already lost control of their party.... please.... just stop.

Best,
Greymane

PS. Hire me to build the wall.

[Edge-]

This Veto required cooperation between BOTH parties, and absolutely could not occurred if the Democrats opposed it.

Hence why I referenced that Democrats that voted for it need to take the blame alongside him as well.

The difference is right now I've not seen a single Democrat blame Obama for this clusterfuck of stupidity on the part of congress. Only the GOP Senate Majority Leader, hence why he gets the strongest condemnation.

[cubby]

Hence why I referenced that Democrats that voted for it need to take the blame alongside him as well.

The difference is right now I've not seen a single Democrat blame Obama for this clusterfuck of stupidity on the part of congress. Only the GOP Senate Majority Leader, hence why he gets the strongest condemnation.

This, plus, who was responsible for bringing up the veto override vote in the first place? This is ALL on McConnell.

[Venant]

Seriously, McConnel can go fuck himself with a rusty chainsaw running at full speed. Fuck that man in every way possible. He needs to own up and take the blame for the stupid decision to override the veto (and initially vote for it), same with every Democrat that voted for it.

Talk about some serious buyers remorse and trying to blame someone else for your own fuckups. The Obama administration was clear from day one why this was a terrible idea, if McConnel and the rest of congress didn't want to listen that's their problem.

It seems like the big problem people have with this bill is that it opens the door to people having a legal recourse for when the US blows up a street full of civilians in a country it isn't at war with, because how it stands now it seems like the only recourse for these people is to strap on a suicide vest and join ISIS.

[Seranthor]

You're missing the entire point.

And what point would I be missing? The point that the veto could NOT have happened without Democrat support? Or the point that 93.3% of US Democrat Senators ALSO disagreed with the President's Veto? Or some other point, Sir?

[ranzino]

AFAIK Saudi Arabia is already theatening to relocate assets from USA, so such assets cannot fall victim to a court order. well, the pot is steaming

[Seranthor]

Hence why I referenced that Democrats that voted for it need to take the blame alongside him as well.

The difference is right now I've not seen a single Democrat blame Obama for this clusterfuck of stupidity on the part of congress. Only the GOP Senate Majority Leader, hence why he gets the strongest condemnation.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see the 'Rusty chainsaw' comment directed at any of the 42 Democrats that voted for the Veto...

[cubby]

And what point would I be missing? The point that the veto could NOT have happened without Democrat support? Or the point that 93.3% of US Democrat Senators ALSO disagreed with the President's Veto? Or some other point, Sir?

I love that you ask a question, and then answer it. If you already know the point you missed, why did you miss it or ask the question?

The ENTIRE point is that McConnell is blaming Obama for the override veto that McConnell was solely responsible for instigating. McConnell is the Senate Majority leader, and that vote could not, and would not, have happened without his actions. End of story.

[Edge-]

It seems like the big problem people have with this bill is that it opens the door to people having a legal recourse for when the US blows up a street full of civilians in a country it isn't at war with, because how it stands now it seems like the only recourse for these people is to strap on a suicide vest and join ISIS.

...what? How on earth do you connect allowing other countries citizens to sue the US government to them no longer joining terrorist groups? Do you think that anyone who is inclined to join ISIS would be interested in suing the US government? That they'd be happy with whatever the results of said lawsuit would be, or something?

[Seranthor]

I love that you ask a question, and then answer it. If you already know the point you missed, why did you miss it or ask the question?

The ENTIRE point is that McConnell is blaming Obama for the override veto that McConnell was solely responsible for instigating. McConnell is the Senate Majority leader, and that vote could not, and would not, have happened without his actions. End of story.

You tell me that I missed a point, then turn around and say the point I supposedly 'missed' was wholy and fully covered in my post... Which is it? I missed the point or I didn't?

[Chrysia]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see the 'Rusty chainsaw' comment directed at any of the 42 Democrats that voted for the Veto...

...Because they aren't blaming Obama for failing to convince them to not override the veto.

[cubby]

You tell me that I missed a point, then turn around and say the point I supposedly 'missed' was wholy and fully covered in my post... Which is it? I missed the point or I didn't?

Pretty clear you missed it. Thought I laid that out with some solid analysis there. You clearly blamed the Dems, when the vote tally isn't the issue at all.

...Because they aren't blaming Obama for failing to convince them to not override the veto.

This is more illustration of the same missed point.

[Felya]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see the 'Rusty chainsaw' comment directed at any of the 42 Democrats that voted for the Veto...

Did you see it directed at any republican other than Mitch McConnel? Strange reply, is strange...

[Machismo]

And what point would I be missing? The point that the veto could NOT have happened without Democrat support? Or the point that 93.3% of US Democrat Senators ALSO disagreed with the President's Veto? Or some other point, Sir?

You are missing the point. The point is that McConnell is blaming Obama for not telling him to not do something, even though Obama plainly laid out why he shouldn't do it. Instead of blaming Obama, he should be blaming the 97 Senators who voted for it. It shows that Mitch McConnell is either a huge fucking idiot, or an asshole who hopes ignorant fools will believe the shit he says. He's hoping that people (you) will try and turn it around and only blame one party... for his own fuck ups.

[LaserSharkDFB]

No, seriously, I want one of the hardcore right-wing tools we have here join this thread and explain this away. Not the bill or overturning the veto - that's on both sides - but trying to blame Obama for it. I really want to see that.

[cubby]

...Because they aren't blaming Obama for failing to convince them to not override the veto.

Precisely. The Dems are owning their vote, McConnell is crying to mommy.