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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Kits View Post
    Go and watch the difference in outcome with second opinions. One thinks they have it, another thinks they don't. If it's such disagremeent then it's likely it's overdiagnosed because of overzealous psychiatrists. If I would have trusted psychiatrists without getting a second opinion I would have been put on antipsychotics against "schizophrenia" when I was younger because the first one thought I was schizophrenic. It's a common problem in psychiatry that you can get widely different diagnosises from different psychiatrists.


    Again. There are differences between the brains physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Again. There are differences between the brains physically.
    Again, it's overdiagnosed. People who don't even have it gets diagnosed with it by overzealous psychiatrists. Learn to read.


    overdiagnosis play
    noun over·di·ag·no·sis \-ˌdī-ig-ˈnō-səs, -əg-\
    Definition of overdiagnosis

    : the diagnosis of a condition or disease more often than it is actually present

    overdiagnose play \-ˈdī-ig-ˌnōs, -ˌnōz, -ˌdī-ig-ˈ, -əg-\ transitive verb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Kits View Post
    Again, it's overdiagnosed. People who don't even have it gets diagnosed with it by psychiatrists. Learn to read.
    And any psychiatrist or psychologist worth his/her salt will send a patient with a bad diagnosis to at least one other practitioner for a consult to make sure they don't miss-diagnose. Because doing that is bad. Sounds like you went to one not worth the salt that didn't send you.
    When I first saw one he wanted to say chronically-depressed. But since that is a godawful horrible fucking diagnoses he sent me on to get another opinion. Who said that it was unlikely that bad, I was probably just had a depression, but had been it for far longer than most my age without any relief. Which it turns out was true.
    It was a case of prepare for the worst while hoping for the best since the first one did say he doubted it but it could be the case.

    Above is what any good practitioner will do on a bad diagnoses. Since they know how hard it is to pinpoint. However, often from what I hear on the state of US mental health it does sound like there are a lot of lazy practitioners who should have more rigorous diagnostic procedures. But that might also be that they want to be "nice" as in, they don't want to send patients to a second doctors appointment with a specialist that'd cost them even more and likely take a few weeks wait to get and might not be covered by insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Kits View Post
    Again, it's overdiagnosed. People who don't even have it gets diagnosed with it by overzealous psychiatrists. Learn to read.


    overdiagnosis play
    noun over·di·ag·no·sis \-ˌdī-ig-ˈnō-səs, -əg-\
    Definition of overdiagnosis

    : the diagnosis of a condition or disease more often than it is actually present

    overdiagnose play \-ˈdī-ig-ˌnōs, -ˌnōz, -ˌdī-ig-ˈ, -əg-\ transitive verb
    Ever thought perhaps you have an underlying issue that has crossover because that's indeed possible.

    It's common, doesn't mean it's over diagnosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Ever thought perhaps you have an underlying issue that has crossover because that's indeed possible.

    It's common, doesn't mean it's over diagnosed.
    It's not "common". You're free to explain why kids who are born in the same year but later in the year are more frequently diagnosed than kids who are born early in the year. Could it be because they misinterpret immaturity in kids who are born in the same year but in the later months as opposed to earlier months, making them almost a year younger than the ones born in january as opposed to being born in december, as being ADHD? Nooooo, can't be. Overdiagnosis surely doesn't exist. It's just a made up thing, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzjhath View Post
    Above is what any good practitioner will do on a bad diagnoses. Since they know how hard it is to pinpoint. However, often from what I hear on the state of US mental health it does sound like there are a lot of lazy practitioners who should have more rigorous diagnostic procedures. But that might also be that they want to be "nice" as in, they don't want to send patients to a second doctors appointment with a specialist that'd cost them even more and likely take a few weeks wait to get and might not be covered by insurance.
    I live in Sweden, my tours with the psychiatry means that I think they have no clue what they're talking about. First it's schizophrenia, then it's schizotypal personality disorder, then it's autism, then it's autism-nos and then it's depression and then finally, in the end, after I had a check up at a physician - I had vitamin deficiencies that were easily fixed by taking supplements, which caused symptoms that psychiatrists diagnosed wrongly. Thanks to them I have sustained some long-lasting problems from vitamin b deficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Kits View Post
    explain why kids who are born in the same year but later in the year[...]
    That's evidence supporting the horoscope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextormento View Post
    That's evidence supporting the horoscope.

    What does almost a years difference in physical development have to do with horoscopes?

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    You can't self diagnose with reliability, if you really think you have it, go and see someone qualified to verify. If you do have it, congratulations, usually nothing changes unless you want it to; maybe you can get some medication, maybe you don't want to.

    ADHD often isn't that big a deal and likely won't affect you half as much as you think it will now as you get older.
    This.

    Very well said.
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    Overdiagnoses exist since the whole medical industry is dependant on selling as much drugs as they can.

    This is just as much why they prescribe any medicine for you to try out and see if it helps, even pre diagnosis.

    Just look up Asthma medicine usage amongst athletes, if they had severe respitory conditions they never be athletes in the first place.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty Kits View Post
    What does almost a years difference in physical development have to do with horoscopes?
    People of the signs Libra Scorpio and Sagittarius are astrally linked with adhd.
    That people born later in the year are, in fact, more diagnosed with it, proves that the horoscope works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    oh look it's another mental illnesses aren't real illness bs case. i suppose you think ptsd is just because those troops are a bunch of sissies and that alzhemiers is just for the weak. the 1940's called and it want's it's mentality back. or maybe you should go read through the moutains of evidence for it being real instead of sitting there with your fingers in your ears going lalalala.
    No. There is evidence for both alzheimer and PTSD, but not ADHD.

    There are people with annoying personalities, doesn't mean they have a disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    Dopamine levels are different
    They are for everyone. There is no study showing a clear difference between those diagnosed with ADHD a the rest of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Self-diagnosing is retarded and demeaning to those with a real diagnosis. Think you might have ADHD? Then go get the diagnosis from the professionals. Most people who self-diagnose, end up not getting one when they seek professional evaluation. These disorders are very much real, which is why you can't get a diagnosis by just believing that you have it.

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    It's very much real. You're just ignorant, which is your right, but it is not an excuse to spread lies. The people questioning the reality of ADHD are akin to the people believing that vaccines cause autism. The major medical groups all acknowledge ADHD as being real.
    No, psychiatrists say it's real. In neurology we don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    No, psychiatrists say it's real. In neurology we don't.
    Isn't that because of how hard it is to pin down what exactly is different with a person who has ADHD and doesn't? IIRC there is a vast difference between those two types of individuals, but a lot of what they find can be pointed towards other categorized diagnoses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    No, psychiatrists say it's real. In neurology we don't.
    Actually, you do.

    http://theness.com/neurologicablog/i.../adhd-is-real/

    Written by Steven Novella, clinical neurologist and assistant professor at Yale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamdwelf View Post
    ADHD isn't real.
    dude shut up, it is real, just like any other mental illness

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextormento View Post
    People of the signs Libra Scorpio and Sagittarius are astrally linked with adhd. That people born later in the year are, in fact, more diagnosed with it, proves that the horoscope works.
    well thats horseshit cos im a LEO and i have ADHD

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    I believe that over-diagnosing could be a thing, but it's not as prevalent as mis-diagnosing. Here in the US, from my experience they don't take the time to properly diagnose you unless you're at the hospital, and you don't get in the hospital unless you're at a serious threat to commit suicide or have seriously hurt yourself.

    As far as ADHD goes, I don't know how in the world they diagnose it in children because most of them are pretty hyperactive, bundles of energy that can only sit still for so long. I think it exists though because i have met people diagnosed as a child who carry those tendencies into adulthood (over 25 yrs old). I know a 31 year old who can't read a book. He is unable to sit and hold attention to read anything more than a page. However he's still able to function in society quite well, and managed to get a college degree.
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  16. #76
    Can't blame anyone who has a difficult time believing in certain mental illness like ADHD or depression. It's something you can't see through an X-Ray.

  17. #77
    Please don't self diagnose, go see a doctor and get checked out.

    Next week you will be vegan as well. Stop turning peoples real problems in to your fashion statements.

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