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    Sweden to accept ISIS terrorists

    http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel...rtikel=6540648

    Google translate:
    Municipalities prepare for defection from violent extremism

    Around 140 Swedes have so far returned after having joined the violent groups in Syria and Iraq. Now preparing several municipalities to work with those who want to jump off. It could include whether to offer practical support to defectors.

    One of the few known cases where someone dropped out after having joined the IS is in Lund. Although violent extremism existed in Lund earlier raised the issue when the Swedes began to travel to Syria and Iraq to fight with extremist groups.

    - When the subject came first we thought "Oh God, how should we handle this," but pretty quickly we realized that we should deal with this in the same way. This is a concern as any other concerns whatsoever, says says Anna Sjöstrand, which is the municipal coordinator against violent extremism.

    In Lund's conclusion that defectors from violent extremist groups should be handled as defectors from other environments, such as organized crime. After an investigation of the person's needs, the municipality can help with housing, employment or livelihood.

    This approach is supported by a report by the national coordinator against violent extremism. Report author, Christoffer Carlsson, says that a person who wants to leave extremist environments often need support to be able to do it.

    - It's a straight through social, economic and material terms. You need to be able to reintegrate into the job market, you may need to have a driving license, debt settlement and shelter. When people leave, they want to leave for something else, they have not the resources to it so it is difficult to realize it, says Christoffer Carlsson.

    If you do not receive support, the risk is great that they are unable to leave the extremist environment, but instead falls back, as Christoffer Carlsson.

    - Then you might make an attempt and fail because they do not have anything holding a left out, instead is there always something to go back to, namely the group they left, says Christoffer Carlsson.

    Also in Malmö, Borlänge and Örebro have similar views on how to support defectors. Last year, the Municipality of Örebro some criticism for offering an internship to a young man who returned after having been in Syria.

    Anna Sjöstrand, municipal coordinator against violent extremism in Lund, do not agree with the criticism. Assuming that people have to serve any punishment should all have the same support, she says.

    - There may be such a criticism, but for me it is difficult to think along those lines, you get the same help as others who seek help from us. We can not say that because you made a wrong choice, you have no right to come back and live in our society, says Anna Lakeshore.



    This is just completely insane, why do they think people want these terrorists to come and live here?

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    Well, isn't this perfectly in line with the "hug a terrorist" philosophy? Why not just be really really nice to them and maybe just maybe they won't blow us up.

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    Will be interesting to see how it pans out.
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    It doesn't seem completely insane, but I can't see it going over very well with the public.

    On the actual subject, I do agree with the bit that people make mistakes, but they atone for them as well. Who knows what these people did with ISIS, regardless of if they were manipulated into killing people or what have you, they still potentially killed people. They still left and joined of their own free-will. It's impossible for them to wipe their hands of the situation now.

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    Everybody should know by now that isis members commit atrocitys all the time, they should be shot on sight and should never be able to return home.

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    Even terrorists are people to!

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    This entire post is based on a misunderstanding. The British Daily Express misunderstood what had been said, and other media (even Swedish ones) swallowed it. What was said originally was that "Given that they've served their time for potential crimes, they should have the right to the same support as anyone else".

    So yeah... perhaps it's high time that foreign media stops misrepresenting what's being said, and for our Swedish media to not reuse what said foreign newspapers have written rather than writing their own pieces based on Swedish information firsthand.

    For any Swedes interested: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article23758093.ab
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    I wonder if tennis will come in saying he hopes canada will do the same , and we should all follow this example.

    /sigh whats wrong with the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkmastaeq View Post
    I wonder if tennis will come in saying he hopes canada will do the same , and we should all follow this example.

    /sigh whats wrong with the world
    Thankfully Canada actually dont let citizen back that are known to have fought for Isis for a couple of years now. Some still went threw the cracks from going back before the current war.

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    They should be thrown in jail. Or executed. This is sad. They have the nerve to take refuge in Sweden, then leave to join ISIS, then come back? What the actual fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris the Shaman View Post
    They should be thrown in jail. Or executed. This is sad. They have the nerve to take refuge in Sweden, then leave to join ISIS, then come back? What the actual fuck?
    What has ISIS done to Sweden?

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    Why exactly should murderous terrorists be given a full pardon, and allowed to live as if they did nothing wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    What has ISIS done to Sweden?
    Are you shitposting? Really? What kind of question is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    What has ISIS done to Sweden?
    Did France ask the same thing when the guy that ate the chinese student, instead of sending him back to Canada? What did he do to France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris the Shaman View Post
    Are you shitposting? Really? What kind of question is this?
    It should be relatively easy to answer if it is so terrible for sweden to accept ex ISIS members. I mean I'm sure members of the US army are allowed to visit and they have run rampant through the middle east for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    It should be relatively easy to answer if it is so terrible for sweden to accept ex ISIS members. I mean I'm sure members of the US army are allowed to visit and they have run rampant through the middle east for years.
    Your strawman is so big it's collapsing under itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris the Shaman View Post
    Your strawman is so big it's collapsing under itself.
    Its a strawman to ask if ISIS has ever done anything to Sweden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Its a strawman to ask if ISIS has ever done anything to Sweden?
    Yes it does actually, because they're exporting Jihad by allowing them to come back once they've joined ISIS. What does ISIS do? They commit acts of terror. Put 2 and 2 together. It's not hard. Sweden now has 140 more known terrorists living in its borders. If you defend that you're a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Why exactly should murderous terrorists be given a full pardon, and allowed to live as if they did nothing wrong?
    because governments want the oil in those regions more than they don't want civil unrest.

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    https://www.thelocal.se/20161016/isl...osecutor-rules

    meanwhile swedish flags get's banned at elementary schools because they could be considered offensive.



    Sweden makes for a fun experiment, i just hope they don't less the mess spill over to us.

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