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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Doesn't have anything to do with evil. Most people will help family or friends before even considering helping strangers regardless of who those strangers are.
    It has a lot to do with it. Think about what you are saying. If a person is defined as your family, than you will help them more often. The issue there is making that stranger, be equal to your family. As much as you might think that's not possible, consider what happens when people marry, to see it happen all the time.

    Familiar acceptance is similar to evil, in a sense that it's definition justifies action. The point of evil, is litteraly something that is as far from familiar as possible.
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    Something to amuse:

    Patriotic, honest and selfish: How Americans describe … Americans



    Hmf...anyone still living with their parents are likely to have a more over-nice outlook (i.e. a bit naïve) than those that are more experienced with survival on their own. (No money in the bank, or government support)

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    The average American do not know the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It has a lot to do with it. Think about what you are saying. If a person is defined as your family, than you will help them more often. The issue there is making that stranger, be equal to your family. As much as you might think that's not possible, consider what happens when people marry, to see it happen all the time.

    Familiar acceptance is similar to evil, in a sense that it's definition justifies action. The point of evil, is litteraly something that is as far from familiar as possible.
    People are never going to be familiar with every single person on the planet. And even those they are familiar with they will have different levels of affection for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    yeah but my point is, we are greedy in ways we would never consider to be greedy.

    we think eating meat every day is normal. we think fruit/veggies not having blemishes is normal. there are examples like this for many many products/services.

    but in reality, if we wanted to feed the entire world sufficiently right now, we would have to give those things up (at least for a while).
    Example needs to be more broad. Because a person would end up giving up a lot more. And such a person would find out just how fast s/he is in reality becoming as miserable as those s/he's trying to help and needing just as much help. This would be even worse if one has a family that needs your own support.

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    Not nearly as much as me, the slackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    If it were possible to quantify patriotism as a single number, you'd wind up seeing some interesting clustering. Rural Americans, by and large, really love the United States, are very comfortable expressing this in no uncertain terms, and frequently fly flags and engage in other conspicuously patriotic signaling behaviors. Urban Americans, by and large, fancy themselves highly cosmopolitan and think in international terms; they're often uncomfortable with conspicuous patriotism and are quick to point out that the United States is no better than a number of other countries.

    There's probably a significant middle-ground in the suburbs, but the two groups above will cluster towards maximum and minimum.
    This applies to entire world. USA is no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    This applies to entire world. USA is no different.
    Which part? That urbanites mostly don't care much about their countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Which part? That rootless cosmopolitans mostly don't care much about their countries?
    Everything. Cosmopolitans being less patriotic/nationalist, rurals being highly patriotic, so on and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Everything. Cosmopolitans being less patriotic/nationalist, rurals being highly patriotic, so on and so forth.
    Yeah, makes sense.

    As a content note, I edited the "rootless cosmopolitan" phrase out because it seemed unnecessarily snarky and kinda classless.

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