Question for Europeans

[Deleted]

You should understand why people resent the status quo, instead of making such disgusting remarks about me.

Things are quickly going to hell, which is just the way lefties like it. Most of them are social leeches living in their bubbles made of marxist hallucinations and lack the common sense to understand and/or the honesty to admit that the economy and the society can't handle this buffoonery forever.

So what Europe should do:

- scrap multuculturalism and all related PC bullshit
- kick out all muslims who prefer sharia to secularism
- punch all marxists in the face
- fix the problems with the Euro
- divert resources into keeping Russia in check without having to rely on the US in everything

That would pretty much be the ideal solution.

[Deleted]

Things are quickly going to hell, which is just the way lefties like it. Most of them are social leeches living in their bubbles made of marxist hallucinations and lack the common sense to understand and/or the honesty to admit that the economy can't handle this buffoonery forever.

So what Europe should do:

- scrap multuculturalism and all related PC bullshit
- kick out all muslims who prefer sharia to secularism
- punch all marxists in the face
- fix the problems with the Euro
- divert resources into keeping Russia in check without having to rely on the US in everything

That would pretty much be the ideal solution.

No, what you are doing in this case is treating the symptoms and not the disease.

[GodlyBob]

Things are quickly going to hell, which is just the way lefties like it. Most of them are social leeches living in their bubbles made of marxist hallucinations and lack the common sense to understand and/or the honesty to admit that the economy and the society can't handle this buffoonery forever.

So what Europe should do:

- scrap multuculturalism and all related PC bullshit
- kick out all muslims who prefer sharia to secularism
- punch all marxists in the face
- fix the problems with the Euro
- divert resources into keeping Russia in check without having to rely on the US in everything

That would pretty much be the ideal solution.

Make Europe great again?

[Shadowferal]

Hobson's Choice isn't really a choice.

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Things are quickly going to hell, which is just the way lefties like it. Most of them are social leeches living in their bubbles made of marxist hallucinations and lack the common sense to understand and/or the honesty to admit that the economy and the society can't handle this buffoonery forever.

So what Europe should do:

- scrap multuculturalism and all related PC bullshit
- kick out all muslims who prefer sharia to secularism
- punch all marxists in the face
- fix the problems with the Euro
- divert resources into keeping Russia in check without having to rely on the US in everything

That would pretty much be the ideal solution.

Trump says that he has plans to do a lot too...and we're all still waiting to hear the details.
Because plans without those pesky details says that they really aren't plans so much as simple-minded buzz words to titillate his base.

[Ripster42]

Nobody wants to be allied with America in the way we are now and have a unified Europe. It's virtually impossible. The very reason behind our alliance is the fact that there's one single entity that can have the final say in every single thing, which simply isn't feasible with a unified Europe. A unified Europe would be in total opposition to America in a multitude of ways, starting with the geopolitical, where Europe would build friendships with America's enemies, to begin with.

These are the most likely scenarios, but not the only. I can't make a poll with every single possible scenario, so pretty much every poll would be a "false dichotomy". Try again.

This is more bullshit. It's not impossible. A unified europe that is run the way you want would be in total opposition to america. It's, again, a false dichotomy because you're framing it that way, when they are clearly not the only two options. You saying a unified europe wouldn't be able to be allied with the us is you presenting it as a false dichotomy. This isn't trying anything. It's horseshit. It's why people think you're full of shit and don't treat you with any respect, because you don't deserve any.

[May90]

Interesting how quality of life on the West is pretty much all times highest right now, and yet people on the Internet whine as never before. I guess that's the result of life becoming too comfortable, so people find new outlets to sip drama from.

[GodlyBob]

Interesting how quality of life on the West is pretty much all times highest right now, and yet people on the Internet whine as never before. I guess that's the result of life becoming too comfortable, so people find new outlets to sip drama from.

Remember the days when sex resulted in pregnancy 25% of the time and syphilis on the rest? Good times. Good times.

[Deleted]

This is more bullshit. It's not impossible. A unified europe that is run the way you want would be in total opposition to america. It's, again, a false dichotomy because you're framing it that way, when they are clearly not the only two options. You saying a unified europe wouldn't be able to be allied with the us is you presenting it as a false dichotomy. This isn't trying anything. It's horseshit. It's why people think you're full of shit and don't treat you with any respect, because you don't deserve any.

It's virtually impossible, and that's evident to anyone but you. Take your time to think about it, and see why you are wrong, because you are really wrong. Simple as.

Addendum: It seems also quite clear that you are an American and thus afraid of enmity with Europe. You need to come to terms with the fact that anti-American sentiment is deeply rooted in European minds. It is rooted in our institutions as well, and our cultures, and everything else you can think of. If you sit down for a minute and think, and imagine a Europe with its own geopolitical ambitions, competing with America on the world stage, that nonetheless is not going to actually have political conflicts with the same, you are very, very mistaken.

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Heading off to bed, goodnight folks.

[Netherspark]

What fantasy world do you even live in?

I don't think a single statement you've made has been accurate. The very basis for your initial poll, and the gibberish you keep repeating, is bullshit you made up in your head, and now you repeatedly chastise people for challenging it?

[Shadowferal]

Hmf...the poll is silly and unrealistically denies current treaties. After all, NATO is still a thing.

[Ripster42]

It's virtually impossible, and that's evident to anyone but you. Take your time to think about it, and see why you are wrong, because you are really wrong. Simple as.

Addendum: It seems also quite clear that you are an American and thus afraid of enmity with Europe. You need to come to terms with the fact that anti-American sentiment is deeply rooted in European minds. It is rooted in our institutions as well, and our cultures, and everything else you can think of. If you sit down for a minute and think, and imagine a Europe with its own geopolitical ambitions, competing with America on the world stage, is not going to actually have political conflicts with the same, you are very, very mistaken.

It's deeply rooted in your mind. I get it.

Saying "take your time and think!" isn't an argument. Saying "it's impossible because I said so!" isn't an argument. A europe with its own ambitions isn't necessarily in conflict with the US. We both want democracy to spread and peace in the americas and europe. Most of europe is more pro-us than pro-russ. Or, at least, most of the nations that have actual economic/political/military power.

The US and EU already have conflicts. Look at what's going on with us corps and the eu courts. Clear conflict. Clearly still allies. And clearly the EU is winning with regards to their own legislation governing themselves. You're just spouting nonsense, as usual.

Edit: of course I'm afraid of enmity with europe. I wouldn't really be a fan of the longest running treaty alliance in the world falling apart. One that's largely kept the us and states of europe from warring with each other. What kind of idiot wants that to dissolve?

[THE Bigzoman]

What would you rather have: Consensual sex or rape?

[Krawu]

None of those two options is in any way ideal. I'm a firm believer in that the European Union CAN and should be made to work, but I don't want to see ourselves too closely allied with the current Russia.
I want to like Russia more than I currently do, but they keep doing shit to keep my opinion of them low.
Matter of fact, America keeps doing things to lower my opinion of it more and more as well, but I do vastly prefer the general American mindset of at least trying to be inclusive and tolerant instead of Russias clumsy Orwellian brand of nationalism Putin is pushing.

The US absolutely is the better ally if the choice is between it and Russia.
So I'm not picking any of the choices OP is offering because both of them suck.

[Nihilist74]

Why would Europe want to be more allied with Russia? Even if they were not ran by what is basically a dictatorship in Putin, what do they have that's great for trade?

[Deleted]

While Unified with slavic influence would cause a lot of corpses, I figure that capitalism will force EU completely to rely on US - and as soon as US does not agree we have a fucking boom on corpses which would be a lot more beneficial.

[Mormolyce]

Australian here so my POV doesn't count.

I think that a European superstate is inevitable in the long term. Just as tribes gave way to city-states, and city-states gave way to larger regions, and those regions gave way to nations, the boundaries between like-minded European nations are becoming less relevant. Superstate is the next logical step.

Similar note: in my own region, I think Australia should outright abolish state governments, and divide their existing powers between enlarged councils and the federal government. There is no meaningful distinction between them anymore.

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Why would Europe want to be more allied with Russia? Even if they were not ran by what is basically a dictatorship in Putin, what do they have that's great for trade?

You don't like vodka?

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Interesting how quality of life on the West is pretty much all times highest right now, and yet people on the Internet whine as never before. I guess that's the result of life becoming too comfortable, so people find new outlets to sip drama from.

Hell half of these online arguments are about issues that were settled decades before the posters were born.

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Things are quickly going to hell, which is just the way lefties like it. Most of them are social leeches living in their bubbles made of marxist hallucinations and lack the common sense to understand and/or the honesty to admit that the economy and the society can't handle this buffoonery forever.

So what Europe should do:

- scrap multuculturalism and all related PC bullshit
- kick out all muslims who prefer sharia to secularism
- punch all marxists in the face
- fix the problems with the Euro
- divert resources into keeping Russia in check without having to rely on the US in everything

That would pretty much be the ideal solution.

I'm having trouble telling if this is right wing sincerity or left wing irony.

[PC2]

If Hillary wins then you should ally with Putin against her.

[Mihalik]

Nobody wants to be allied with America in the way we are now and have a unified Europe. It's virtually impossible.

That's like your opinion man.

Russia is and always will be the historical opponent of Europe. The best you can get is Europe largely ignoring Russia as long Russia stays within its borders. Apart from the Serbs, and like 2 other largely irrelevant groups of Slavs no one actually likes Russia, for a million good reasons.

Also while Russia is a warmongering nuisance, economically speaking it is also largely irrelevant. Russian politics, religious expression, and culture doesn't currently align with any European values. It's a position Russia chose.

The US-Europe Alliance on the other hand has been the historically speaking the most successful alliance in history by any possible metric. We also share cultural, social and political values.

So yeah, no. Voting in your silly poll is irrelevant as the poll itself is loaded and nonsensical.

European Unity and ever closer ties to the US. If anything we should be making much more significant efforts to politically and economically isolate Russia. We should see the realization of a European Union military (without the British obtuseness) and gear and focus that force into containing Russia.

[Ealyssa]

But, these are the two people generally aim for.

Nope, only in your head.

You can now move on with your fantasies.

[anveena]

How much did the Kremlin deposit into your bank account for these posts?