It procs all the time with this change. I have a hard time seeing that as a nerf. It's more reliable fury-gain.
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Yea sorry! I couldnt bother looking at wowprogress but i knew you were in the top 30s ish Anyway i can imagine it being nuts on opener. I've grown to hate spamming demon bite so i hope i wont hate this change if intended.
It is actually a rather massive buff if you have Anger of the Half Giants. I guess no body is/was talking about it for fear they would change it back.
The problem with DB if you are using Anger is that you effectively lose procs by locking your GCD window for long periods of time just trying to dump resources. After the change, you always get the procs. I was seeing around a ~20-30% increase in DB procs. I didn't get to test in in any raids, but it is about a ~15% single target dps buff from live on the training dummy (fairly patchwerk, full uptime, ~30 iterations).
The biggest problem i ran into was the inability to actually spend fury. During haste trinket procs and a lucky string of crits i would see my fury bar sit at cap despite every global going to CS.
I tested a bit without Anger and it was still a slight buff, just because of the resource gen during the lust/meta window. If you think its actually a nerf, go test it for 5min on the PTR and you will understand why its a buff.
They are testing things with DH, class is young, they don't want it to be OP and unfortunately we are sensitive to this. The least change can make us OP or in contrary make us shit. Blizz have hard time to "balance" it properly but this change is mostly a "fixed mechanic".
It is in the patch notes now, so it's not likely to be a mistake/bug fix gone wrong as was a mentioned posibility earlier: worldofwarcraft. com/en-us/news/20335228#demon
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IIRC, the dev's had said before during the Pre-Patch that DB was something they wanted to change, i jut wish the change was to get us away from a 1 button rotation.. This change is good, sitting around waiting for DB to actually proc is why our dps fluctuated up and down during the course of the fights. Now this seems to be something a little more stable. I may be wrong but that's what i see.
So, how big of an increase is this? Anyone roughly knows?
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Well, only because i wasn't sure if the change was intentional or not because it wasn't in the patch notes until today. Also, their wording in the patch notes indicates they don't think its a throughput increase. It most certainly is in certain situations.
Roughly? Pure single target. 0-5% without Anger of the Half Giants. 10-20% with it.
Yes, with anger of the half giants +probably the tier19 2 set bonus i can see this change to be a huge buff for ST. but as i said, for the people who don't have AOTHG, i dont see the change as a buff, maybe you can cast slightly more CS, but how many of them are actually in the momentum buff? and what's the dps increase without the ring?
and thanks for sharing this info..
It's in the patch notes, dunno if it wasn't there before: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20335228
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Since when do you use momentum for the demon blades procc, are you actually that bad and not knowing you should dump during your CS/ANNI/TG abilities you have been doing it wrong all the time.
You should never ever Momentum on white hits. not even on oppener you do it becuse you illardi and TG when you felrush in, and then you bank up then you VR and dump then you FR and TG again and dump.
Like what are you actually talking about?
becuse what you are saying is somthing you NEVER EVER did unless you wanted to gimp your dps.
i like the change this will make good players show even bigger number diffrances from bad players, however i think its a to big of a buff, it will increase our damage by way to much.
also this gives me a feeling haste overtakes mastery now(especially if you have the ring)
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Per the official patch notes:
Demon Blades will now trigger while on the global cooldown (was delayed until after the GCD). This is not a gain to throughput.