WTF Happened to my HP?

[Deleted]

Before patch HP in PvP = 2300K, now = 1920k

I'm a rogue with the 10% HP honor talent

[Schattenlied]

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/7...es-october-25/

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thanks, time to reroll

[jackofwind]

Boohoo, the non-tank leather-wearer with the best DPS defensive cooldown kit in the game is crying that he lost 5% Stamina in PvP only.

Grow up.

[bonewax]

Boohoo, the non-tank leather-wearer with the best DPS defensive cooldown kit in the game is crying that he lost 5% Stamina in PvP only.

Grow up.

pretty much this

if you re roll because of a slight health nerf then thats just dumb. Rogues are top tier in this expansion with crazy dps and cc. What would you reroll to?

[Deleted]

Boohoo, the non-tank leather-wearer with the best DPS defensive cooldown kit in the game is crying that he lost 5% Stamina in PvP only.

Grow up.

LMFAO

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pretty much this

if you re roll because of a slight health nerf then thats just dumb. Rogues are top tier in this expansion with crazy dps and cc. What would you reroll to?

Don't know, don't have time to grind every fucking character to 110 and get fully geared to see which one I like best

[Mirishka]

thanks, time to reroll

Careful, your knees are gonna need braces what with all that jerking.

[Saverem]

pretty much this

if you re roll because of a slight health nerf then thats just dumb. Rogues are top tier in this expansion with crazy dps and cc. What would you reroll to?

Definition of FOTM rerollers.

[Mafic]

Stamina nerf is a mistake as it promotes spamming feint.

[Mazaxist]

Rogues are the strongest class in game right now imo. You gonna reroll due to stamina nerf? Lol maybe roll a dk or a monk or another face roll melee

[Matejqo]

Rogues are the strongest class in game right now imo. You gonna reroll due to stamina nerf? Lol maybe roll a dk or a monk or another face roll melee

DK? Do you even peeveepee? Doesnt even feel like melee sometimes

[Gully Man]

I personally think the 15% stamina reduction was silly. The reasoning behind it was they have too much survivability while at the same time putting out too much damage, but this stam reduction was done in conjuction with another 10% agility reduction (55% total since the start of the season). So now it's a class that doesn't put out high damage with reduced survivability.

[Deleted]

can you fucktards stop being fucking retarded?

Rogue strongest class ingame? YES IN WORLD PVP! YES WE ARE THE BEST FUCKING SHIT EVER IN WORLD PVP! WE CAN ONESHOT EVERONE IN WORLDPVP! TRY FUCKING RATED ARENA!! you dumb fuck, getting trained the whole game, evasion, then dead!

fucking retards!

Infracted

[Mafic]

What also makes this a bad change is that it forces talent selections for honor talents and base line talents.

Normally I would say nerfs are warranted (eg damage reduction of Assassination) but a nerf to stamina is not warranted.

[Magical Mudcrab]

Rogue strongest class ingame? YES IN WORLD PVP! YES WE ARE THE BEST FUCKING SHIT EVER IN WORLD PVP! WE CAN ONESHOT EVERONE IN WORLDPVP! TRY FUCKING RATED ARENA!! you dumb fuck, getting trained the whole game, evasion, then dead!

No, in rated.
At the North American Regionals, Assassination Rogues specifically were one of the most selected classes/specs, entirely due to it having one of the best kits available. It's able to deal significant amounts of pressure and burst, great mobility, powerful defensives, etc.

Unfortunately, the Rogue PVP nerfs are going to lead to a lot of complaining from Rogues, which - at least in my experience - has one of the most entitled class communities.

[Deleted]

No, in rated.
At the North American Regionals, Assassination Rogues specifically were one of the most selected classes/specs, entirely due to it having one of the best kits available. It's able to deal significant amounts of pressure and burst, great mobility, powerful defensives, etc.

Unfortunately, the Rogue PVP nerfs are going to lead to a lot of complaining from Rogues, which - at least in my experience - has one of the most entitled class communities.

That tournament was before the numerous nerfs.

[Deleted]

you got nurfed bro

[Magical Mudcrab]

That tournament was before the numerous nerfs.

I'm aware that it was before the tournament.
Of course this is going to impact class representation - mostly due to FOTM re-rollers - the above was more regarding why the nerfs were occurring. However, Assassination is still going to be more competitive than many other specs. A good example is Frost Mage, whose burst was gutted and also received stamina nerfs.

[Deleted]

I'm aware that it was before the tournament.
Of course this is going to impact class representation - mostly due to FOTM re-rollers - the above was more regarding why the nerfs were occurring. However, Assassination is still going to be more competitive than many other specs. A good example is Frost Mage, whose burst was gutted and also received stamina nerfs.

Frost just got buffed again with 7.1 in terms of dps. They also don't rely on stamina as much. Mage is going to be good regardless. Assa is just a dps bot. If you nerf dps and survivability the dps bot turns to shit because he has nothing else to offer.

[Mafic]

Frost Mages are one of the most tankiest specs in PVP.

Why are frost mages more tanky than say Affliction locks and has more burst in 7.1? Afflicition needs some serious buffs if they are supposed to be a a tanky caster.