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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

    This video explains pretty well why voting for the third might actually be a very bad idea. "First past the post" naturally drifts to 2 party system, and for reasons explained in the video.
    That is not entirely correct: at most we can say it drifts to 2 parties in each electoral district. What can then happen is that you get regional parties - like SNP in Scotland.

    Additionally it is known that there is no perfect democratic system - as proven by Arrow.
    That doesn't make the US system better - and it could still be that another system is better.

    However, the video totally misses the obvious: each US state maximizes their influence by going for a "winner takes all" - and they are the ones in charge.
    Similarly the voters in each state maximize their influence by stopping others from voting under the current system - since the electoral votes are based on total population - including felons (and not even counting them as 60% like slaves).

    The states deciding on their electoral votes will naturally cause each state to be a "winner takes all" . The voters might get a single transferable vote - but it will still be a "winner takes all" state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    What is it with you guys and that insult?
    It's a metaphor. If you enjoy watching millions of migrants instantly get your tax money from your government with no contribution requirements to said country then you're a cuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Well, you've got Clinton. Who's led a life of public service.

    And then you have Trump. Who's led a life of self-service.

    And don't forget about the emails!
    Well, you've got Clinton. Who's led a life of self-service at public expense.

    Fixed that for you.

    One does not get extremely rich living a life of public service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    Well, you've got Clinton. Who's led a life of self-service at public expense.

    Fixed that for you.

    One does not get extremely rich living a life of public service.
    Why do you care how much money she makes? Mind your own business.
    Eat yo vegetables

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Why do you care how much money she makes? Mind your own business.
    If she has mostly been employed by the government then it is valid for tax payers to look into her earnings. As opposed to if she was always employed in a private setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Why do you care how much money she makes? Mind your own business.
    I have no problem with how much money she makes - just how she made it. At least a bank robber is pretty honest about being a crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    If she has mostly been employed by the government then it is valid for tax payers to look into her earnings.
    Where the fuck is that written?

    Anyway. Luckily for you guys. She's released her tax returns for like, the past 30 years. So have it. Scrummage all you'd like.

    Pretty sure she paid 35% last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwart View Post
    I have no problem with how much money she makes - just how she made it. At least a bank robber is pretty honest about being a crook.
    What's wrong with speaking fees? Why do you hate Capitalism so much?
    Eat yo vegetables

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Where the fuck is that written?
    Government 101: Transparency helps keep government fraud and abuse down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Where the fuck is that written?

    Anyway. Luckily for you guys. She's released her tax returns for like, the past 30 years. So have it. Scrummage all you'd like.

    Pretty sure she paid 35% last year.

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    What's wrong with speaking fees? Why do you Capitalism so much?
    Let me fix that statement for you....
    What's wrong with influence peddling? Why do you support Corruption so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Government 101: Transparency helps keep government fraud and abuse down.
    Come on man. You're just making things up. That's not an actual policy. It's not written anywhere. It's not some unspoken rule.
    Eat yo vegetables

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Come on man. You're just making things up. That's not an actual policy. It's not written anywhere. It's not some unspoken rule.
    If you dont want transparency in government administration that is your prerogative. I demand transparency from the government. Many other tax payers do as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Anyway. Luckily for you guys. She's released her tax returns for like, the past 30 years. So have it. Scrummage all you'd like.
    Where they stored on her email server? I kid I kid...(before someone responds with a long pointless rant)

    What's wrong with speaking fees? Why do you hate Capitalism so much?
    I see nothing wrong with it, I am glad we can charge students higher tuition so they can hear the great Hillary speak.

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    All anyone needs to know about the US election is to vote for Trump.

    /end.

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    We have two megathreads for election discussion, we don't need a third to repeat the same topics. Locked.


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