Pvp **rng** ultimate fail !!! Please rant loud so blizzard fixes it!!!

[dm10169]

It hasn't gotten any better, it's not getting any better, if anything it's bugging the shit out of me more and more. I have received soooo many duplicates, 0 upgrades (except for low level alts), 0 items better than WQ items, it's beyond frustrating. Who the hell wants a duplicate item for many hours spent in arenas, only to get an RNG downgrade or dup, it's a slap in the face!

I haven't heard anything but complaints, but I'm not hearing about anything from blizzard to fix this RNG bullshit, the "community" needs to SCREAM LOUD AND CLEAR, that this is complete and utter crap. Are they hoping the dust cloud will settle!!! HELL NO!! Get rid of his crap already. Not everybody runs Rated RBG's in a team setting to get a piece every win. Some of us just do 2's and 3's and we WANT TO TAKE THESE 835 PIECES AND SHOVE THEM UP BLIZZARDS ASS!!!

**** If we get above a certain ranking, our gear rewards should always come from our HIGH WATER MARK for the week **** If I'm sitting at 1750, why the hell am I getting 835 gear?

Again, it's been months and I have won 0 pieces of PVP gear, that is higher than any PVE gear that I have. So if we are going off of iLVL, these 835 pieces for my 200 hours of PVP time is bullshit, if I can spend 1 hour of PVE time and **WHISTLE JUMP** WQ TO WQ to get iLVL gear that is higher than 835, 840, and even 845, why bother with Arenas? Once a week, I get my 850 or 860 piece whatever it is, which it shit because it's been the same thing 2 times in a freaking row!


HERE IS THE SIMPLE MATH!!! for anyone who wants to debate this with me


1 Hour of PVP = 1-2 Pieces of *Trash RNG Gear* on average
1 Hour of PVE = 4-5 Pieces of gear, selective, not RNG, on average

PVE gear from WQ is better for PVP iLVL wise unless you are 1800+
PVE gear from WQ is way faster to obtain and is not RNG and appears to WARFORGE / TITANFORGE at a higher rate, maybe due to class hall perk.

Conclusion ** PVE is currently easier and faster to obtain than PVP gear ** if you are < 1800+ rating -- In my opinion, this is NOT RIGHT!

PVP Should offer rewards for PVP at the same rate & playtime as PVE

So many people like to argue and say, "Why would you PVP, to gear for PVE??" but I can say back to you, "Why should I be doing PVE, to gear for PVP?" since it's so much faster and easier to do so.....

[Snegovik]

totally agree with you mate, over past 3 weeks, i got 7 artifact relics, 1 belt (or cloak, cant remb now) i D/Ed it, and only 1 gear peace upgrade of 2 ilvls. given 2 of my brackets are illegible for elite tier... i want my xmog set >.< yet just 1 piece in 3 weeks wtf?

They need bring pvp vendors back, at least ones that rewards cosmetic skins

[kurtpal]

Quit within the first month of legion as a primarily PVP only player.
PVP is on a slow downhill spiral and it wont be fixed anytime soon - I understand your frustration but these threads wont fix it. Sorry

[rda]

In terms of what would fix it - I am completely sure they will notice huge losses in the ladder (I linked a couple of stats from arenamate, they are getting pretty ridiculous as time goes on) and will make some amends in 7.1.5 or 7.2. Hope they will simply return some PVP currency. But they need time to assess the damage and see that what they thought was a brilliant plan crashed and burned.

[melzas]

Yes it sucks, esp. when you reach rating for elite gear and you just keep getting wrists, relics, cloaks, rings, necks and trinkets. I only bother with pvp to get elite gear for transmog but at this rate I might stop doing pvp altogether since it's so hard to get pieces you want, leave alone whole set.

[Caolela]

In terms of what would fix it - I am completely sure they will notice huge losses in the ladder (I linked a couple of stats from arenamate, they are getting pretty ridiculous as time goes on) and will make some amends in 7.1.5 or 7.2. Hope they will simply return some PVP currency. But they need time to assess the damage and see that what they thought was a brilliant plan crashed and burned.

The only thing that might have been clever about it was how they figured it would cause longer sub times (grinds) and assuming people would just put up with it. It's just another way to cheaply scam more profit from the game.

They do it every time - push as far as they can until there's a backlash, then revert in small increments from there. And take their own sweet time doing so.

Any changes they might make from here out with be the smallest bones they can toss our way and still get away with. Try that for a few more months then maybe a little more if needed, etc. until they see subs stop bleeding.

People at some point get tired of feeling like they're getting screwed though. Threads against this crap helps some but what really gets their attention is unsubs and less sales from new accts. and Blizz shop.

[Mafic]

They did a pitiful boost of AP gains from losses in random BG's but that is at this point throwing peanuts at a hungry orca whale.

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It hasn't gotten any better, it's not getting any better, if anything it's bugging the shit out of me more and more. I have received soooo many duplicates, 0 upgrades (except for low level alts), 0 items better than WQ items, it's beyond frustrating. Who the hell wants a duplicate item for many hours spent in arenas, only to get an RNG downgrade or dup, it's a slap in the face!

I haven't heard anything but complaints, but I'm not hearing about anything from blizzard to fix this RNG bullshit, the "community" needs to SCREAM LOUD AND CLEAR, that this is complete and utter crap. Are they hoping the dust cloud will settle!!! HELL NO!! Get rid of his crap already. Not everybody runs Rated RBG's in a team setting to get a piece every win. Some of us just do 2's and 3's and we WANT TO TAKE THESE 835 PIECES AND SHOVE THEM UP BLIZZARDS ASS!!!

**** If we get above a certain ranking, our gear rewards should always come from our HIGH WATER MARK for the week **** If I'm sitting at 1750, why the hell am I getting 835 gear?

Again, it's been months and I have won 0 pieces of PVP gear, that is higher than any PVE gear that I have. So if we are going off of iLVL, these 835 pieces for my 200 hours of PVP time is bullshit, if I can spend 1 hour of PVE time and **WHISTLE JUMP** WQ TO WQ to get iLVL gear that is higher than 835, 840, and even 845, why bother with Arenas? Once a week, I get my 850 or 860 piece whatever it is, which it shit because it's been the same thing 2 times in a freaking row!


HERE IS THE SIMPLE MATH!!! for anyone who wants to debate this with me


1 Hour of PVP = 1-2 Pieces of *Trash RNG Gear* on average
1 Hour of PVE = 4-5 Pieces of gear, selective, not RNG, on average

PVE gear from WQ is better for PVP iLVL wise unless you are 1800+
PVE gear from WQ is way faster to obtain and is not RNG and appears to WARFORGE / TITANFORGE at a higher rate, maybe due to class hall perk.

Conclusion ** PVE is currently easier and faster to obtain than PVP gear ** if you are < 1800+ rating -- In my opinion, this is NOT RIGHT!

PVP Should offer rewards for PVP at the same rate & playtime as PVE

So many people like to argue and say, "Why would you PVP, to gear for PVE??" but I can say back to you, "Why should I be doing PVE, to gear for PVP?" since it's so much faster and easier to do so.....

This "PVP" system is designed for PVE players.

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In terms of what would fix it - I am completely sure they will notice huge losses in the ladder (I linked a couple of stats from arenamate, they are getting pretty ridiculous as time goes on) and will make some amends in 7.1.5 or 7.2. Hope they will simply return some PVP currency. But they need time to assess the damage and see that what they thought was a brilliant plan crashed and burned.

It already has crashed and burned. At this point they are dragging their feet as it was clear that they miscalculated.

They thought making it easier for PVE players going into PVP would offset losing pure PVP players.

[Ealyssa]

1 Hour of PVE = 4-5 Pieces of gear, selective, not RNG, on average

What game are you playing again ? Cause it's surely isn't wow.

Got a shity necklace for doing a MM+12, the PVE selective non RNG dream is real...

[munkeyinorbit]

It hasn't gotten any better, it's not getting any better, if anything it's bugging the shit out of me more and more. I have received soooo many duplicates, 0 upgrades (except for low level alts), 0 items better than WQ items, it's beyond frustrating. Who the hell wants a duplicate item for many hours spent in arenas, only to get an RNG downgrade or dup, it's a slap in the face!

I haven't heard anything but complaints, but I'm not hearing about anything from blizzard to fix this RNG bullshit, the "community" needs to SCREAM LOUD AND CLEAR, that this is complete and utter crap. Are they hoping the dust cloud will settle!!! HELL NO!! Get rid of his crap already. Not everybody runs Rated RBG's in a team setting to get a piece every win. Some of us just do 2's and 3's and we WANT TO TAKE THESE 835 PIECES AND SHOVE THEM UP BLIZZARDS ASS!!!

**** If we get above a certain ranking, our gear rewards should always come from our HIGH WATER MARK for the week **** If I'm sitting at 1750, why the hell am I getting 835 gear?

Again, it's been months and I have won 0 pieces of PVP gear, that is higher than any PVE gear that I have. So if we are going off of iLVL, these 835 pieces for my 200 hours of PVP time is bullshit, if I can spend 1 hour of PVE time and **WHISTLE JUMP** WQ TO WQ to get iLVL gear that is higher than 835, 840, and even 845, why bother with Arenas? Once a week, I get my 850 or 860 piece whatever it is, which it shit because it's been the same thing 2 times in a freaking row!


HERE IS THE SIMPLE MATH!!! for anyone who wants to debate this with me


1 Hour of PVP = 1-2 Pieces of *Trash RNG Gear* on average
1 Hour of PVE = 4-5 Pieces of gear, selective, not RNG, on average

PVE gear from WQ is better for PVP iLVL wise unless you are 1800+
PVE gear from WQ is way faster to obtain and is not RNG and appears to WARFORGE / TITANFORGE at a higher rate, maybe due to class hall perk.

Conclusion ** PVE is currently easier and faster to obtain than PVP gear ** if you are < 1800+ rating -- In my opinion, this is NOT RIGHT!

PVP Should offer rewards for PVP at the same rate & playtime as PVE

So many people like to argue and say, "Why would you PVP, to gear for PVE??" but I can say back to you, "Why should I be doing PVE, to gear for PVP?" since it's so much faster and easier to do so.....

How about you just git gud and PvE. It is the superior play style.

[NotInTheFace0]

So many people like to argue and say, "Why would you PVP, to gear for PVE??" but I can say back to you, "Why should I be doing PVE, to gear for PVP?" since it's so much faster and easier to do so.....

How do you "gear for pvp" when gear does next to nothing in pvp?

[Caolela]

How about you just git gud and PvE. It is the superior play style.

I have a better idea: how about we just say "fuck you Blizz" and not play Legion or unsub until Blizz learns to git gud?

[Saverem]

Blizz employees don't come on here, post this over on the WoW forums if you want their attention.

[Deleted]

You don't need gear for PvP as much as you need it for PvE. That's why you don't get as much of it as you would from PvE.

[Caolela]

How do you "gear for pvp" when gear does next to nothing in pvp?

OK, how about you PvP in newly dinged greens/lower gear against people that have decent gear?

Come back and tell us when you've grown tired of having your face smashed in.

[Deleted]

You don't need gear for PvP as much as you need it for PvE. That's why you don't get as much of it as you would from PvE.

First of all gear does matter in PvP but a little less than before and AP matters same or more than in PvE. Problem isnt really about the ilvl of gear but about getting reward from pvp. No matter how much time you spend on PvP you will get only 3 pieces of gear based on ratings each week. For PvE you have heroic/mythic raids, you have Mythic + dungeons, people can share gear and you have bonus roll.

Wouldnt it be disappointing if Mythic raiders were raiding wearing PvP gear? Thats what is happening to PvP Gladiators wearing nearly half of PvE gear.

Since gear matters less in PvP its even more important to give cosmetic rewards. Blizzard should add a Vendor to sell Elite skin for people above 2k ratings. It will be nearly impossible to get full set with the current reward system.

[Sencha]

Gear doesn't matter in pvp. Is it too hard to understand?

[rda]

Gear doesn't matter in pvp. Is it too hard to understand?

It does. Read other threads in this forum.

[Caolela]

Gear doesn't matter in pvp. Is it too hard to understand?

rda's right, we've been down this road 800 times already.

"Gear doesn't matter coz ilvl & OMG TEMPLATES!1!!" is one of the biggest propaganda lies Blizz has ever come up with.

[Sencha]

rda's right, we've been down this road 800 times already.

"Gear doesn't matter coz ilvl & OMG TEMPLATES!1!!" is one of the biggest propaganda lies Blizz has ever come up with.

It's like 1% per 5 ilvl? Yeah big deal right.

[Caolela]

It's like 1% per 5 ilvl? Yeah big deal right.

Yes it actually is. Not to mention the cumulative effect when added to arti wep and trait differences.

There are plenty of threads discussing this already, not going to re-argue it here.