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    The overtime rule

    https://www.dol.gov/featured/overtime

    what would it take to get this overturned, and would trumpy do it?

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    I hope he does, I'd like him a little more.

    Despite liberals screaming that nothing about Trump is good for them, Trump has no real plans to mess with social security, medicare or medicaid or basically anything entitlements besides the ACA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I hope he does, I'd like him a little more.

    Despite liberals screaming that nothing about Trump is good for them, Trump has no real plans to mess with social security, medicare or medicaid or basically anything entitlements besides the ACA.
    so you're ok with people being worked and not being adequately compensated?

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    No, that wouldn't be overturned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoapuffs View Post
    so you're ok with people being worked and not being adequately compensated?
    I'm ok with a private employer and employee agreeing to a wage without the government interfering and setting rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiZaku View Post
    No, that wouldn't be overturned.
    hes already expressed opposition to it

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    i was thinking overwatch.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I'm ok with a private employer and employee agreeing to a wage without the government interfering and setting rules.

    That's not how it works, even if it sounds good on paper. Employer and employee are not on an equal level of power most of the time. This just leads to exploitation because the small employee has no leverage and the company just finds a cheaper replacement for you that eats their shit without complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coprax View Post
    That's not how it works, even if it sounds good on paper. Employer and employee are not on an equal level of power most of the time. This just leads to exploitation because the small employee has no leverage and the company just finds a cheaper replacement for you that eats their shit without complaining.
    exactly

    well a month of the extra money will be nice, but a real slap in the face when it gets removed by the SOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by coprax View Post
    That's not how it works, even if it sounds good on paper. Employer and employee are not on an equal level of power most of the time. This just leads to exploitation because the small employee has no leverage and the company just finds a cheaper replacement for you that eats their shit without complaining.
    This is a very complex economic question that people with PhDs disagree on. I approach the question from a moral perspective because philosophy is more of my field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I'm ok with a private employer and employee agreeing to a wage without the government interfering and setting rules.
    No, Just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shonist View Post
    No, Just no.
    oh why not, who needs an actual pay if they work over 40 hours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    This is a very complex economic question that people with PhDs disagree on. I approach the question from a moral perspective because philosophy is more of my field.
    So maybe you should stay out of it as it is not in your field.
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    why so mad bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    So maybe you should stay out of it as it is not in your field.
    Nor is it likely yours.

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    There is a very good reason this exists so you can't call them salary and overwork them to death for slightly over minimum wage.

    It's a win win for employees so unless you are an employer you are only hurting yourself.
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    If businesses and their owners could be trusted with being moral beings, this would likely be unnecessary. But we don't live in such an imaginary world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylreick View Post
    If businesses and their owners could be trusted with being moral beings, this would likely be unnecessary. But we don't live in such an imaginary world.
    yeah, and the only thing i can find about trump talking about it is him wanting to make it to where it didnt apply to small businesses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    This is a very complex economic question that people with PhDs disagree on. I approach the question from a moral perspective because philosophy is more of my field.
    Morally, I think it's wrong for employers to exploit employees..which is generally what would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I hope he does, I'd like him a little more.

    Despite liberals screaming that nothing about Trump is good for them, Trump has no real plans to mess with social security, medicare or medicaid or basically anything entitlements besides the ACA.
    The aca and medicaid are linked, and being losing health insurance is in fact literally life or death for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    This is a very complex economic question that people with PhDs disagree on. I approach the question from a moral perspective because philosophy is more of my field.
    Can't really approach a question like that in a vacuum, the whole reason unions are a thing is specifically because a single employee doesn't have anywhere near the bargaining power that a company/corporation has.

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