30/11 PTR Legendary Changes

[promithius]

Discuss.

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BRM: Makes the Bracers by far the strongest Legendary.

[Dakiri]

BRM: Makes the Bracers by far the strongest Legendary.

There's a weird overlap between the bracers and the Firestone Walkers. Seems like the bracers do the same thing, but without a cap and for every brew, not just Fort. I'd expect there to be some changes because the bracers are basically strictly better in every situation other than something like Shade of Aran where there's no melee attacks.

[rammsz]

where did you find those notes? I didnt find them anywhere on mmo

[Bigo]

So a fully stacked CJL will hit harder than FoF in single target with that legendary?

FoF: 525%*5 = 2625% of Attack power during 4 seconds (with no haste)
CJL: 70%*2.5*20 = 3500% of Attack Power during 4 seconds at no cost (with no haste)

I took my attack power %s from wowhead, IDK if they're updated or not, if this is the case, that's pretty cool but you still can't move during the cast

[promithius]

where did you find those notes? I didnt find them anywhere on mmo

Wowhead. Much more readable format that MMO.

[Xahz]

So a fully stacked CJL will hit harder than FoF in single target with that legendary?

FoF: 525%*5 = 2625% of Attack power during 4 seconds (with no haste)
CJL: 70%*2.5*20 = 3500% of Attack Power during 4 seconds at no cost (with no haste)

I took my attack power %s from wowhead, IDK if they're updated or not, if this is the case, that's pretty cool but you still can't move during the cast

Sure if you don't count Transfer the Power, Fist of the Wind, and Crosswinds.

BRM: Makes the Bracers by far the strongest Legendary.

No way they go live like that.

[Saverem]

Discuss.

BrM looks to be too strong, I'd be surprised if it makes it to live.

ToK one is a nerf to survivability and I'd say a slight buff to damage since you need to absorb less damage to do the same amount of damage back at target.

CJL one, don't know. It has potential to be crazy high burst. 250% * 20 = 5,000% increased damage and 0 energy cost... Haven't checked lately, but IIRC my CJL ticks for about 7.5k right now. 5k% increase means it's going to tick for 375k and cost no energy.

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So a fully stacked CJL will hit harder than FoF in single target with that legendary?

FoF: 525%*5 = 2625% of Attack power during 4 seconds (with no haste)
CJL: 70%*2.5*20 = 3500% of Attack Power during 4 seconds at no cost (with no haste)

I took my attack power %s from wowhead, IDK if they're updated or not, if this is the case, that's pretty cool but you still can't move during the cast

Isn't FoF also physical and mitigated by armor? CJL would be counted as a spell and not be mitigated by armor.

So that CJL legendary + 8% from Hit Combo + ~42% from Mastery + armor mitigation bypass = a lot of ranged damage.

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Sure if you don't count Transfer the Power, Fist of the Wind, and Crosswinds.

Didn't think of that. But CJL still has the armor bypass ability for being spell damage, so could make up for it.


The UNDERLYING point to all of this is. How much more overall damage will using a 20 stacked CJL be over not using it at all. The damage seems to be comparable to FoF on single target, but you should only be using it once after every 20 chi-spending abilities, which won't be often.

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I do wonder if you'd get more than one stack if you use a chi spender that costs more than one chi. Anyway, glad to see they buffed it, it was definitely needed. It'll be 3570% of AP now.

An average (I think I used 7 stacks of xfer the power last time I calculated this) FoF is 4452% of AP, so you're looking at roughly 80% of a FoF. How often depends a bit on whether or not you get more than one stacks. It ignoring armor is very nice, but standing in one place for four seconds might not be.

ToK legendary probably needed a nerf, but I'm not sure the survivability aspect of it is what needed nerfing...

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Well the reducing of the cost up to a 100% can make a difference.... because there have been points in my rotation where i had a downtime...sitting on 3 chi (keeping them for FoF, which is getting off CD in 3-5 secs) and having no energy. This way the chest will have some use.... but, tbh.... not a very exciting item to own...

[Bigo]

Sure if you don't count Transfer the Power, Fist of the Wind, and Crosswinds.

Right! forgot about that but seems useful for those times were you're energy starved and need the chi for FoF or some cooldown that's coming up