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  1. #121
    I've missed most of this thread, so I'm sorry if this has been hashed out...

    But, why is living with mom and dad a bad thing? It can make sense in many ways. For example, a friend of mine would be close to poverty (he's a musician by trade, a cashier for a paycheck) if he had to pay rent. So he lives with his parents. Meanwhile, his parents are aging and can't do many household tasks, which he does. It seems win/win to me.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Fun View Post
    Many can afford their own place if there were any at a reasonable cost.
    Whats a reasonable cost? I bought my first apartment in the Netherlands at age 21 and was already living on my own since the age of 18 (18th bday to be precise).
    Not sure how low the prices need to go for people to afford living on their own?

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    Whats a reasonable cost? I bought my first apartment in the Netherlands at age 21 and was already living on my own since the age of 18 (18th bday to be precise).
    Not sure how low the prices need to go for people to afford living on their own?
    no every country has as good social support and free higher education as Netherlands htough - by makiing claims like this you just make yourself look like a fool.
    if you want to look smart first go and check averae prices of rent/buyout of apartment in Tokio/Kioto and comapre it to Netherlands - you will be surprised guarantee it.

  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    no every country has as good social support and free higher education as Netherlands htough - by making claims like this you just make yourself look like a fool.
    if you want to look smart first go and check averae prices of rent/buyout of apartment in Tokio/Kioto and comapred it to Netherlands - you will be surprised guarantee it.
    Just found a 1 bedroom in Tokyo for Y106,225 or 876.36 EUR a month.
    I can get the same in Amsterdam.

    The average pay for my job at the time in Tokyo is around Y5,000,000 which is around 41,250.00 EUR a year.
    I was making a lot less back then in the Netherlands (36,000 EUR a year).

    You are correct its more expensive, its one of the biggest and richest City's in the world but you can still live there comfortably when you have a mediocre to good job.

    Also good job at starting the first sentence with an insult.

  5. #125
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    The real problem is that they never get their life of the ground. They are stuk in their personal development and in their mid-30's this will be very hard to change or to even adapt to a working life.

    Japan has so many long term problems on top of this that I wonder how this will end for them.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    The average pay for my job at the time in Tokyo is around Y5,000,000 which is around 41,250.00 EUR a year.
    I was making a lot less back then in the Netherlands (36,000 EUR a year).
    Average pay is a bad indicater on what they pay on entry jobs. You can ride a bike through Amsterdam. But Tokyo is (almost) as big as the Netherlands try to commute in Tokyo, and then make the choice, commute 2 hours extra all work days or liv at the parents, saving money to be able to afford a apartment somwher close to work.

    But yes there are probebly a laziness factor to....

  7. #127
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    Said it here before many times, Japan is the canary in the coal mine for where the developed world is heading

    Remember when we were making fun of Japanese metrosexual men in the early-mid 1990s?

    They're just culturally a decade and a bit ahead of us

    Next episode: sex robots

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    You can't really cherrypick what's okay and what isn't okay. Especially if this really is coming down to an issue of being unable to afford it.
    I'm sad this has to be said. I was silly to presume this was automatically understood in every referenced modern issue too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xarim View Post
    Said it here before many times, Japan is the canary in the coal mine for where the developed world is heading

    Remember when we were making fun of Japanese metrosexual men in the early-mid 1990s?

    They're just culturally a decade and a bit ahead of us

    Next episode: sex robots
    I would say it was VR but they seem to have gone that way so now we all know VR is the pipe dream, and you're correct.

  9. #129
    i dont think i could live with my parents past age 20, let alone 35

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    Sooo many losers there I mean, it is a great country, but...

    Proper and healthy is to leave parents around 18 years.

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    Why are so many people referencing 18 as the proper and healthy age to move out?

    This isn't some universally agreed upon thing.

    If someone can, and wants to, great. If someone cannot or does not want to, it isn't some immediate sin.
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  12. #132
    why ages 15-34? Who the fuck moves out be4 18? or even 21-23 if you count in unistudies.

    wtb 23-34 statistics.

  13. #133
    Same thing is happening in England.

    Average salary is £28,000
    Average house price is £280,000

    Banks will only lend up to 5 times your salary, plus you need a deposit.
    Renting is more expensive than buying.
    Too many people, not enough houses.


    Simple maths and simple supply / demand analysis, and its easy to see why this is happening.


    Its frustrating to talk to people who live in countries where this hasnt happened yet who cant understand the situation.

    I find Canadians to be the prime culprits on these forums who literally do not believe this situation is widespread and becoming worse and how it negatively affects communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    It sucks that they can't afford their own place but at least their family structure is strong and the parents are there for the kid and vice versa.
    False.

    Birthrates are lower in this situation because the child that is 35 and over have nowhere to raise their own children and so do not produce offspring.

    This housing crisis is a disaster.
    If you aren't a Socialist by age 20, you have no heart. If you are still a Socialist by age 40, you have no head.
    The Left MUST appeal to the low paid white working class male if they want to regain ground. Rejecting them and castrating them in favour of a cheaper immigrant worker has backfired spectacularly.

  14. #134
    I am sorry that the Japanese economic system went down the drain but at least they don't have SJWs running around screaming down at people from their high horse with nose rings and colored hair and never living outside of their echo chambers of social media and never moving higher in the corporate ladder than their day job at starbucks or mcdonalds.

    The Japanese are very lucky in that part but they need to up their GDP beyond anime and sony products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    Goooood, goooooood. Join us Theo - the New World Order calls to you
    That just about figures. At least this one isn't hiding in the shadows, it's all about flaunting it now.

  15. #135
    Eh. Asian culture. Your kids are your retirement plan.

  16. #136
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    Well... some people are as low as to rent their home. They even lacked parents who had some success and build a home for their future generation. We need Tennisace to do something here.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Really? I think you should be happy to have matured early on.

    Especially in today's world of manchilren, you have a HUGE advantage.
    Yeah i reflected upon it in a later post. I'm starting to see what you mean more and more, for a long time i thought it was a curse but now i'm seeing how it can be a blessing in disguise. Yet being behind multiple years as far as education before due to having to work full time at low wage jobs to set my life "bases" is still a massive downside. But at the same time, if i finish my degree by age 30 instead of 25, when retirement's age has pretty good chances to be pushed back in the 70s by the time i end my career probably won't matter too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
    Yeah i reflected upon it in a later post. I'm starting to see what you mean more and more, for a long time i thought it was a curse but now i'm seeing how it can be a blessing in disguise. Yet being behind multiple years as far as education before due to having to work full time at low wage jobs to set my life "bases" is still a massive downside. But at the same time, if i finish my degree by age 30 instead of 25, when retirement's age has pretty good chances to be pushed back in the 70s by the time i end my career probably won't matter too much.
    Honestly, I wouldn't worry about retirement at all. Just focus on the now and the coming years!

    I had a pretty shitty start myself too, although mostly because I made some stupid mistakes myself.
    It took some times, hard work (grinding and grinding) but eventually I got to a place where I wouldve never gotten to if I walked the "normal" route.

    Just take your current disadvantages and turn them into your strengths. Starting from a bad place can fuel you like nothing else. Make sure you develop a strong feeling of purpose and have a clear picture of where you want to be in life and let NOTHING stop you.

    What helped me through the shittiest moments was advice from people like Brian Tracy and Jack Canfield. For extra motivation you could look for Eric Thomas on YouTube!

    Enjoy the journey, it can make you a new and better person! You can always message me for some advice

  19. #139
    Its the same way in Murrica as well

    I'm 28 and hopelessly stuck with my parents, no way out in sight

    Luckily my parents are awesome and I love them to death tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joobulon View Post
    Its the same way in Murrica as well

    I'm 28 and hopelessly stuck with my parents, no way out in sight

    Luckily my parents are awesome and I love them to death tho
    So youre staying with your parents till they die?

    And how is it te same in the US as in Japan? You mean you have a low salary/no job and the house pricing is too high?

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