Nullifying election, deploy national guard / marshal law , and maybe violence.

[Chrysia]

Maybe ignoring your crazies is part of the problem. Instead of giving them a mic to scream and pout you should take it away.

Hahahahahahahahaha. Do Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones ring a bell? Glen Beck? Nobody has a longer history of being given a mic to scream and pout than the radical right.

[TITAN308]

Question for the OP: If it was found that there was a large scale interference by the Russians to the tune of rigging polling machines, what do you think should happen?

Hadn't really thought about it to be honest. We were presented with two shit bags so the end result for me was the same either way.

[Xar226]

Not going to make the mistake of saying "this is what Democrats think" - far to much of a blanketed statement. So I am curious, the registered Democrats that do post here, how does this thread and its responses make you feel? (not THIS thread, the thread on DU)

I am a liberal, though I am not a registered member of any party. I voted for Bernie in the primary and Clinton in the election, if that's important. What do I think? A few things.

1. There is no evidence that I have seen that says anything material that we don't already know. Regardless of whether or not Trump or his supporters want to admit it, we've known for a while that Russia was interfering in our election and that that interference was completely one-sided. The only new information I've seen to date is that they apparently also hacked the RNC but did not release any of that material, which gives further credence to the fact that it was meant to help Trump instead of merely undermine US democracy.

What does that mean? It means voters should have already factored this into their decision making. If they didn't, well, too bad. You don't get a do-over for not paying enough attention the first time.

2. Even if strong evidence emerges that the Russians legitimately interfered in our election--meaning for example that they hacked voting machines or something like that and not merely that they put out one-sided information--there is no provision that I am aware of under federal or state law to declare a new election. If such evidence came out in the next few days, there are a couple of mechanisms at the Electoral College that could deny Trump the presidency, but even that doesn't get you a new election. I would not support that outcome, nor would I support a new election. We absolutely need to deal with these issues and we should have a Constitutional means of nullifying an election, but I have no interest in creating a Constitutional crisis or of disenfranchising huge swaths of the voting public by trying to pretend such mechanisms exist where they don't.

3. No to martial law, no to threats of violence. Idiotic.

4. I fully support getting whatever we know about this out there. (I wouldn't go so far as to say "even at the risk of compromising sources and methods." Without knowing what they are, I can't say whether or not I would compromise them.) I believe a foreign power interfering in our elections and hacking our political parties and possibly areas of our government is a very serious matter that needs to be taken seriously, regardless of whether or not we happen to like the outcome of the election or the person whom they were meddling for. Unfortunately it's almost a foregone conclusion that people will refuse to take it seriously because it has become a political issue, even though it won't--and shouldn't--change a damn thing about the election results.

A second question, how do you feel about this website/community (Democratic Underground) in general?

Don't believe I've ever read any of their stuff.

[Glorious Leader]

They deliberately go looking for things to be upset by.

They get triggered very easily.

[Draco-Onis]

Maybe ignoring your crazies is part of the problem. Instead of giving them a mic to scream and pout you should take it away.

What are you talking about? your crazies have the President's ear and are in the white house.

[satimy]

How low would the Dow go?

[KayRule]

As someone who voted for Hilary, if there were to be a second election I'd vote Trump instead of Hillary.

[Artarist]

I don't quite see the truth as "outside swaying of elections" The wiki leaks really only showed that the DNC purposefully screwed Bernie. So the truth getting out swayed an election and is considered hacking? If the truth wasn't shown the people would just think things were kosher that weren't they would have voted a lie. Good that it was aired out. I don't see that as " hacking that swayed an election." I'm a fan of the truth , we should get more of it.

[Garnier Fructis]

Not going to make the mistake of saying "this is what Democrats think" - far to much of a blanketed statement. So I am curious, the registered Democrats that do post here, how does this thread and its responses make you feel? (not THIS thread, the thread on DU)

A second question, how do you feel about this website/community (Democratic Underground) in general?

I think you care more about it than registered democrats do.

[Ghostpanther]

Question for the OP: If it was found that there was a large scale interference by the Russians to the tune of rigging polling machines, what do you think should happen?

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The issue is not that the Russians hacked into the polling machines ( no evidence of that ), but rather they hacked into the democratic emails which were used to influence the voters. Even that is a assumption and personally I think it had a extremely low bearing on why Trump won.

If they find evidence the voting system itself was hacked and altered, then they should nullify this one and hold another. I think the results would be the same however and it appears some democrats have not learned why they lost in the key swing states.

[Stormdash]

So, to be clear, Democratic Underground explicitly advocated the sitting President refusing the peaceful transition of power, overthrowing the Constitutional system of government, and declaring dictatorship.

[Theodarzna]

A second question, how do you feel about this website/community (Democratic Underground) in general?

..... The only way to purify it is total dismemberment of the body, or by fire, or live burial.

[Zeta333]

It doesn't matter what her reason was, she was on the ballot and she is entitled to a recount. She doesn't need to have a reason at all, although her stated reason was fair elections and a transparent democracy.

why is she entitled to a recount? A judge just ruled, just being on the ballot does not entitle you to a recount. The judge said she has no resonable chance of winning via recount. Its a pointless endeavor that shes persuing for the democratic party.

[Crackleslap]

Does it count if I was a US citizen I would be a democrat?

If so, I think whatever the fuck was linked in OP to be complete idiocy. Trump won. Fairly/unfairly is up for debate, a lot of democrats want populate vote (obvious reasons), and Republicans want the keep the current system (very obvious reasons). As for now? Democrats pretty much have to suck it up and let the cookie crumble for the next 4 years. Thriving for change now would be just way to ugly since change just happened.

[vetinari]

Question for the OP: If it was found that there was a large scale interference by the Russians to the tune of rigging polling machines, what do you think should happen?

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People unable to tell the difference between a grand conspiracy of getting 3 million illegals to vote, and Russians simply hacking polling machines. Rofl.

Hint: One is a logistical impossibility. The other isn't.

lets say you have a state that registers you to vote when you get your driver's license . . . and lets say the state also issues driver's licenses to illegal immigrants . . . and is run by democrats

Now lets suppose that state also has millions of non-citizens who aren't particular averse to breaking the law, since their very presence in the country is against the law.

cough california cough

[Orbitus]

How do you like voting and being represented by a con artist?

I don't think Celista would ever vote for Trump. Since he is the only con artist in this election.

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Im sorry but no, voter fraud in the US is more pronounced in the democratic party than republicans and I dont see why people keep up the popular vote arguement. THE US HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE A DEMOCRACY WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

Actually it isn't. The confirmed cases that happened this year, most of them were by Trump supporters because Trump told them they could vote twice.

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According to many liberals wikileaks was a big nothing anyway so Russia tried to influence the results but failed.

No. Gullible conservatives believed Wikileaks. People with working brains, didn't.

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As someone who voted for Hilary, if there were to be a second election I'd vote Trump instead of Hillary.

Even with his corrupt appointments he is making? That is literally pants on head retarded.

Infracted

[unbound]

Source: Democratic Underground



Not going to make the mistake of saying "this is what Democrats think" - far to much of a blanketed statement. So I am curious, the registered Democrats that do post here, how does this thread and its responses make you feel? (not THIS thread, the thread on DU)

A second question, how do you feel about this website/community (Democratic Underground) in general?

Not a Democrat, much less a registered Democrat, but I find places like Democratic Underground to be about on par with Red State...full of the extremists that no one really wants to hang around.

[PosPosPos]

Sigh, the right wing and their manufactured outrage again.

When will they learn not to link blogs and social media by whorus as "evidence" of "left-wing extremism"?

In the meantime, the right has 4-5 prominent and mainstream conspiracy/fake news sites, but they are surprisingly silent or supportive of them.

[Chrysia]

lets say you have a state that registers you to vote when you get your driver's license . . . and lets say the state also issues driver's licenses to illegal immigrants . . . and is run by democrats

Now lets suppose that state also has millions of non-citizens who aren't particular averse to breaking the law, since their very presence in the country is against the law.

cough california cough

You know that the driver's licenses issued to non-citizens clearly state they are non-citizens, right?

[Adam Jensen]

I hate Trump

But I'm not being a part of a violent revolution so long as there's any hope that democracy can work. So long as the Donald sticks to the Constitution, I can grudgingly wait until 2020 to have him removed, legally, and peacefully, as we do every 4 years.

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If, and only if, you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was somehow elected illegally, I'll support the nullification of his election.

But, as much as I'd love to see Angry Cheeto kicked out of office before he even gets to his inauguration, I see no reason to believe that he did not win fair and square. However, the whole Russian hacker thing does need to be investigated.