The alt-left is taking shape in France [trigger warning]

[Kryos]

This is the shape the alt-right has:

[Kalis]

Nu shto ? Vodka is the obvious answer

Or Frenchmen should simply avoid Russia in winter. And Germans should as well.

[Deleted]

his birthplace is written on the passport, which is obviously in France: Châteauroux .

and no, you cannot tax somebody who gives up his citizenship. at least not for future income as soon as the individual is abroad. and no, you also cannot hinder somebody to give up citizenship, it's a human right.

if i remember correctly Trump said something like "im going to tax your products 30% if you outsource jobs"a while ago so even if you cant tax someone directly you can tax the products entering the french market

[Sinyc]

this post contains socialism and basic human decency. a safe space

Stopped reading here. I get you want to attack the "other" side that ridiculed the extremists who needed a safe space, but it's just not working and makes you look stupid.

[Jonuts]

[I]/!\ this post contains socialism and basic human decency.

But these are fairly mutually exclusive. At least, when take to this absurd level.

Honestly though? I'm all for it. Watching France collapse would be quite entertaining.

[nextormento]

Satire is pretty common in France, and so is using dank memes.
That subreddit has 9 subscribers.
Could you point to any relevant section on that forum?.

I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary. In the context of France, that is.

[Deleted]

But these are fairly mutually exclusive. At least, when take to this absurd level.

Honestly though? I'm all for it. Watching France collapse would be quite entertaining.

implying the usa isnt coolapsing itself

the billionaire ideal is deeply rooted in american culture and it is something i understand it even if i don't like it.

but it is not normal to have a few people with billions while there are starving masses and i'm glad the french people are rallying around that ideal

[Caolela]

Satire is pretty common in France, and so is using dank memes.

Oooh, edgy meme yourself there, hmm?

Wonder if you kids ever had an original thought in your lives, or just pick up whatever word/phrase is the kewl overused/misused hipster buzzword of the day?

[W1sp]

his birthplace is written on the passport, which is obviously in France: Châteauroux .

and no, you cannot tax somebody who gives up his citizenship. at least not for future income as soon as the individual is abroad. and no, you also cannot hinder somebody to give up citizenship, it's a human right.

Since when had the left ever cared about rights?

[Deleted]

Since when had the left ever cared about rights?

tax evasion is not a right.

and again, the american definition of "the left" is really different than in most of europe. it is really an invention

we do not have that whole SJW / flat earth / climate denial things and no one takes them seriously

[Blobfish]

This is the shape the alt-right has:

I call Foobar

the Alt Right is not executing Jewish people or minorities.

its about Freedoms for All.. Its about being Patriotic about your country or the country you adopt.
Its about employing people because of skills, not because you are a black, chinese, gay muslim.

Its about law & order that does'nt give into weakness such as a persons culture.

Its about wearing a motorcycle helmet into a bank , while the Muslim lady with a burqua can do the same.

Its about helping the Homeless , drug affected mentally ill people of your own Nationally out first, before
providing funding and housing to refugees from some foreign land.

[nextormento]

Oooh, edgy meme yourself there, hmm?

Wonder if you kids ever had an original thought in your lives, or just pick up whatever word/phrase is the kewl overused/misused hipster buzzword of the day?

OP's premise is that this French alt-left are re-purposing alt-right memes. You know, hijack those terms used to describe their side.
If you prefer the term "worn out clichè", go for it. "Dank", however, is the in-universe term for this supposed development, and I find it most appropriate.
Not like originality has any value when it comes to memes: it's their commonality with other known symbols what fuels their virality.

OT: I'm waiting for some pointers as to where is this alt-left is taking shape. I still don't see anything out of the ordinary.

[Deleted]

I call Foobar

the Alt Right is not executing Jewish people or minorities.

Neither did the Nazis, for the first 7-8 years that they were in power, doesn't mean there was plenty of rhetoric that in the end lead them to justify their executions.

[ranzino]

tax evasion is not a right.

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tax evasion by emigration is a right.

[Glorious Leader]

if i remember correctly Trump said something like "im going to tax your products 30% if you outsource jobs"a while ago so even if you cant tax someone directly you can tax the products entering the french market

Fat chance. All the rhetoric is nice but to expect decades old free trade treaties to be ignored in a politicial climte dominated by the republicans and a trump cabinate populated by big business elites is dumb.

[Caolela]

OP's premise is that this French alt-left are re-purposing alt-right memes. You know, hijack those terms used to describe their side.
If you prefer the term "worn out clichè", go for it. "Dank", however, is the in-universe term for this supposed development, and I find it most appropriate.
Not like originality has any value when it comes to memes: it's their commonality with other known symbols what fuels their virality.

OT: I'm waiting for some pointers as to where is this alt-left is taking shape. I still don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Just calling them "alt-left" is bastardizing the existing term alt-right. AFAIK "alt-left" didn't commonly exist before someone started calling those like Breitbart's Steve Bannon alt-right.

In November 2008, Paul Gottfried addressed the H. L. Mencken Club about what he called "the alternative right".[28] In 2009, two more posts at Taki's Magazine, by Patrick J. Ford and Jack Hunter, further discussed the alternative right.[29] The term, however, is most commonly attributed to Richard B. Spencer, president of the National Policy Institute and founder of Alternative Right.[3][30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

[Deleted]

tax evasion by emigration is a right.

If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, the rules for filing income, estate, and gift tax returns and paying estimated tax are generally the same whether you are in the United States or abroad. Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside.

us law says it isnt

now if you want to give your citizenship back fair game, but dont expect to sell something tax free in the country you ripped off

[nextormento]

is bastardizing the existing term

Welcome to subversion.
OP is claiming that's what's going on. I'm waiting for some examples beyond what's business as usual in French politics.

[Deleted]

Welcome to subversion.
OP is claiming that's what's going on. I'm waiting for some examples beyond what's business as usual in French politics.

i pointed similarities between how the original alt right emerged, i never said there was an "official" alt left but i do think we will hear about it in the future

i cant post links but you can just type anything into google and find it, just try "melenchon youtube" "melenchon jvc" "cant stenchon the melenchon" etc its all alt right style memes and parodies. of course you have to scale that to the size of france, we dont have 300 millions citizens

edit: use french google / yt

https:// www .slate. fr/story/129020/melenchon-le-pen-forum-jeuxvideocom

[Dastreus]

A tax of 100% on any earnings over 100 million is something I've said before. Over 400k is a bit extreme but fuck it, I'd still get on board for it. Just, they would have an option to give earnings over 100m out to the company to be used in split payment of all employees. A boon for the workers for continuing to work hard to keep the company earning a load. Another option is give the excess to taxes and/or charities. (Though after the clinton foundation has been found to be dipping into their "charity" maybe have a list of approved charities.)