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    Donald Trump Meets with Reagan’s Deputy Trade Rep Robert Lighthizer

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...12/19/5761037/

    President-elect Donald Trump, at his Florida Mar-a-Lago estate, will meet with former Deputy U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, who worked in the Reagan administration.

    Lighthizer, a partner at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, previously defended Trump’s rhetoric on trade. In a 2011 op-ed, for example, Lighthizer questioned the criticism from conservatives of Trump as a liberal because of his stance on trade, arguing that if Trump forces questions about free trade, “it will have done a service to both the Republican Party and the country.”

    Lighthizer wrote:

    Skepticism toward pure free-trade dogma can be seen as well in more recent Republican leaders. The icon of modern conservatism, Ronald Reagan, imposed quotas on imported steel, protected Harley-Davidson from Japanese competition, restrained import of semiconductors and automobiles, and took myriad similar steps to keep American industry strong. The same can be said of Richard Nixon. In 1971, Nixon imposed a temporary tariff on all imports in response to what he perceived to be unfair foreign economic policies. No one would accuse Nixon of being a “liberal” – but his approach was in some ways even more trade-restrictive than what Mr. Trump has suggested.

    Trump will also meet with founder, chairman and CEO of the Peebles Corporation, a real estate investment company, Don Peebles on Monday. Additionally, Trump’s Senior Adviser on Policy Stephen Miller with meet with the president-elect.

    Chris Reyes, of Reyes Holdings, and Admiral Thad Allen will also be meeting with Trump.

    “We do not expect any other announcements today, but we will have further announcements, I’m sure, as we start moving into the week,” Trump’s spokesman Jason Miller told reporters on Monday after Trump announced earlier Monday morning that he wants Vincent Viola is his secretary of the Army.

    Trump is spending the week at Mar-a-Lago for the Christmas holiday with his family.

    Vice President-elect Mike Pence is in New York City for transition meetings on Monday and then he will be in Washington, D.C. for transition meetings on Tuesday. Pence will spend the Christmas holiday in Indiana.

    Interesting development for sure.

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    Not bad. As much as I abhor Trump on lots of issues, he has my full support on trade and jobs. Free trade can go f itself with an iron stick. It is economic treason.
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    Most of the problems in trade in regarss to workers could be solved if people decided to move and do away with unions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Most of the problems in trade in regarss to workers could be solved if people decided to move and do away with unions.
    yeah right let's all move to third world countries and eat shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheggaro View Post
    yeah right let's all move to third world countries and eat shit
    I don't mean that. There are countless job opportunities when it comes to manufacturing jobs. Companies are on a labour shortage, the problem is that many have a perception of it that belongs to the 1950s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Most of the problems in trade in regarss to workers could be solved if people decided to move and do away with unions.
    Are you actually proposing that even more union busting would be a good thing for workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    Are you actually proposing that even more union busting would be a good thing for workers?
    Unions are a bother when it comes to investment. In fact one of the reasons the rural areas never managed to innovate was due to unions. It made investment so expensive that it wasn't worth it. It's bad for workers in regards to their rights, but good for then in which it generates new jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    Are you actually proposing that even more union busting would be a good thing for workers?
    If he's not, I am. Unions have become far too powerful and are the major cause of outsourcing of jobs and production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Most of the problems in trade in regarss to workers could be solved if people decided to move and do away with unions.
    The lack of unions has caused even more problems with wages not keeping up with inflation or production and the lack of on the job training, benefits and job protections.

    The unions overall have also saved more jobs than they have lost by far margins and actually exist in other better nations to work in in much stronger levels with some of them strong enough that they don't even need minimum wage laws because the unions are strong enough to do that themselves.
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    I love the 'no one could accuse Nixon of being liberal'... Have you tried mentioning that he started the EPA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Most of the problems in trade in regarss to workers could be solved if people decided to move and do away with unions.
    If unions are so bad, why is our billionaire president elect collecting a pension from SAG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Unions are a bother when it comes to investment. In fact one of the reasons the rural areas never managed to innovate was due to unions. It made investment so expensive that it wasn't worth it. It's bad for workers in regards to their rights, but good for then in which it generates new jobs.
    This isn't true in the slightest. If you need to see why rural areas don't innovate, look no further than the coal debate this election season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I love the 'no one could accuse Nixon of being liberal'... Have you tried mentioning that he started the EPA?
    Nixon was the first president and America the first industrial nation to categorize endangered species based on numbers in order to specify environmental protection. Back in the days where being Republican or Democrat didn't matter so much, you looked at each individual issue on its own merits rather than the blanket turn brain off ideological doctrines we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Release View Post
    Nixon was the first president and America the first industrial nation to categorize endangered species based on numbers in order to specify environmental protection. Back in the days where being Republican or Democrat didn't matter so much, you looked at each individual issue on its own merits rather than the blanket turn brain off ideological doctrines we have now.
    Environmentalism becoming a liberal issue came after Nixon.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Club

    Since then, we have had a strange stance that conservation is not conservative. As bizarre as that sounds...
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    Donald Trump scratches his hole and OP will report that too? I am sure brightbutt already does that so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    Not bad. As much as I abhor Trump on lots of issues, he has my full support on trade and jobs. Free trade can go f itself with an iron stick. It is economic treason.
    The only way to reduce the impact of globalization is for people in Mexico, Vietnam, etc to make higher wages. The only reason jobs leave the US is because wages are too high. The wages don't have to equal dollar for dollar but they have to be high enough to make business sense.

    Trying to legislate globalization away won't work, businesses will just move to other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    The only way to reduce the impact of globalization is for people in Mexico, Vietnam, etc to make higher wages. The only reason jobs leave the US is because wages are too high. The wages don't have to equal dollar for dollar but they have to be high enough to make business sense.

    Trying to legislate globalization away won't work, businesses will just move to other countries.
    Not entirely. Another way to help it is with Tariffs to offset the labor difference between the region. And it isn't that the wages are too high in the US, the wages in the US are actually too low for the majority of the population relative to the costs of living an goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    The only way to reduce the impact of globalization is for people in Mexico, Vietnam, etc to make higher wages. The only reason jobs leave the US is because wages are too high. The wages don't have to equal dollar for dollar but they have to be high enough to make business sense.

    Trying to legislate globalization away won't work, businesses will just move to other countries.
    Which won't happen because the entire point of globalization is for the elites to take lions share of the money and the labor gets pittance in every country. So we'll just legislate it away country by country.
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    You start dropping tariffs and consumer prices are going to go up. Trump fundamentally misunderstands how trade works. HILARIOUS part is if a few of these companies do move back they will move to liberal states where people get college degrees at a higher rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    You start dropping tariffs and consumer prices are going to go up. Trump fundamentally misunderstands how trade works. HILARIOUS part is if a few of these companies do move back they will move to liberal states where people get college degrees at a higher rate.
    That's the irony of the whole thing. If the jobs move back, non manufacturing companies will just move to blue states or urban centers where they can make the most money. Manufacturing plants may reopen in Bumfuck, Indiana but will just be automated so minimal job creation there either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    You start dropping tariffs and consumer prices are going to go up. Trump fundamentally misunderstands how trade works. HILARIOUS part is if a few of these companies do move back they will move to liberal states where people get college degrees at a higher rate.
    Trump has already backed out on those with his Carrier deal where he gave them tax breaks to only send 1300 jobs out of the nation instead of the 2,000 planned and did it in a way that threatens more US jobs as other corporations are now enticed to make that same threat in the hope of more tax breaks as well which you will be helping foot the difference on the tax bill.

    Trumps current plans and picks have the overall impact of selling out the working class and their children to enrich the already rich.
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