Kentucky Professor sings "California Girls" gets slapped with Sexual Misconduct

[TrumpIsPresident]

So basically you are pulling shit out of your ass that wants to fit your narrative. Obviously students were triggered in you opinion. But GOD FORBID, he might actually had other allegations attached. Let's dismiss those, while yelling "Triggered" so you can feel better.

Pointing out that something isn't corroborated isn't dismissing it - its directly discussing it. If I wanted to dismiss that I wouldn't be responding to everybody thats talking to me about it.

[Donimic]

Read closer.
There's no proof. There's no complaint. Its just one administrator making claims.

a "sexual relationship with a student" is not the same thing as "inappropriate touching". This isn't a criminal case, the guy got a written reprimand from his employer, the bar for evidence is much lower if not non-existent.

[TrumpIsPresident]

a "sexual relationship with a student" is not the same thing as "inappropriate touching". This isn't a criminal case, the guy got a written reprimand from his employer, the bar for evidence is much lower if not non-existent.

Sums up the whole point nicely. Well done.

[God Save The King]

Then it further states that two students wanted to defend him, but the University did not interview them. So he has evidence to back him up that he was not acting inappropriately, but the University didn't want to consider that evidence.

i'm leaning on the University doing something wrong here. But I would still need to see more details.

It states that he stated students wanted to defend him. They could have been bystanders, irrelevant to the situation, etc. I doubt they were the "victims" or else the university would have taken them seriously.

Shit article & shit thread though. Just a raging Trump supporter looking to get triggered by evil liberals.

[TrumpIsPresident]

One linked article is an opinion piece from Kentuckyfuking.com???

I'm not home atm. Quick someone make a website: Ifuckmysisterinkentucky.com and write an opinion piece on what a pervert this professor might be.

/facepalm

Its the website of a Kentucky newspaper that has existed since 1870.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington_Herald-Leader

[Chrysia]

Yea unsubstantiated uncorroborated accusations from parties not involved. That University didn't even inform him that the allegation had been made till after the decided punishment. So if a sexual assault did occur then why weren't the police involved? If that's the case then it seems like this University is covering it up.

Because it happened in China. Which police are they supposed to notify, again?

[God Save The King]

Sexual assault isn't a legal issue?

It's not like he's going to prison. It's like when you cheat on your homework. You can get expelled from the University but you're not going to jail.

Same thing here. This wasn't a court case, or a trial, or had any lawyers. It didn't go through our legal system. It was an internal conduct issue that determined he was acting with sexual misconduct. This decision appears to have been reached by the statements of several professors and the statements of the accused himself. I've worked at Universities. There's no court room, trial, etc. When a professor is accused of something like this, they do internal investigation. If there is a preponderance of evidence (i.e. most people thinks he probably did it), then action is taken.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

[TrumpIsPresident]

It's not like he's going to prison. It's like when you cheat on your homework. You can get expelled from the University but you're not going to jail.

Same thing here. This wasn't a court case, or a trial, or had any lawyers. It didn't go through our legal system. It was an internal conduct issue that determined he was acting with sexual misconduct.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

Seems to me that it would be unlikely that a University would let a sexual assault get swept under the rug IF one indeed actually occurred.

It seems far more likely, to me at least, that hypersensitive rape culture antics at at work here and while they know they cant make a criminal case out if it there is nothing stopping them from power tripping on it in house where evidence isn't a requirement.

[Chrysia]

Seems to me that it would be unlikely that a University would let a sexual assault get swept under the rug IF one indeed actually occurred.

It seems far more likely, to me at least, that hypersensitive rape culture antics at at work here and while they know they cant make a criminal case out if it there is nothing stopping them from power tripping on it in house where evidence isn't a requirement.

Again, which police are they supposed to notify? It happened when the teacher was on a teaching trip in China. What American authorities do you think have jurisdiction of actions taken in China?

[Deleted]

Honestly, it is a pretty creepy song to sing to students.

However, there is context missing here. Was he on stage in front of them? Was he just walking down a hall singing it to himself? How was this presented?

Anyhow, here are the lyrics in case anyone is unfamiliar with the song.

"California Girls"

Well East coast girls are hip
I really dig those styles they wear
And the Southern girls with the way they talk
They knock me out when I'm down there

The Mid-West farmer's daughters really make you feel alright
And the Northern girls with the way they kiss
They keep their boyfriends warm at night <--Maybe this is what they are concerned about? Not sure.

I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California girls

The West coast has the sunshine
And the girls all get so tanned
I dig a french bikini on Hawaii island
Dolls by a palm tree in the sand

I been all around this great big world
And I seen all kinds of girls
Yeah, but I couldn't wait to get back in the states
Back to the cutest girls in the world

I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California girls

I wish they all could be California
(Girls, girls, girls yeah I dig the)
I wish they all could be California
(Girls, girls, girls yeah I dig the)
I wish they all could be California
(Girls, girls, girls yeah I dig the)
I wish they all could be California
(Girls, girls, girls yeah I dig the)

The David Lee Roth versions is even creepier than the Beach Boys'

[God Save The King]

Seems to me that it would be unlikely that a University would let a sexual assault get swept under the rug IF one indeed actually occurred.

It seems far more likely, to me at least, that hypersensitive rape culture antics at at work here and while they know they cant make a criminal case out if it there is nothing stopping them from power tripping on it in house where evidence isn't a requirement.

Sexual misconduct =/= sexual assault.

Plus this happened in China. It's not like they can call the local Kentucky police to do something about it. And I doubt the Chinese would give a damn. They're not going to ask for extradition for something this small and silly.

And one last thing, it's very rare for the police to get involved if the victim does not come forward. In some states, they actually can't do anything unless the victim says something. Again we run into the problem of the potential victim being in CHINA.

That's why it's an internal issue not a police/legal issue. You can't have a professor getting all handsy and gropy every time they make a trip.

[Garnier Fructis]

Yea unsubstantiated uncorroborated accusations from parties not involved. That University didn't even inform him that the allegation had been made till after the decided punishment. So if a sexual assault did occur then why weren't the police involved? If that's the case then it seems like this University is covering it up.

The police aren't involved unless the person making the claim chooses to report it to the police.

And to address the updated post that says it wasn't reported by the students themselves but by other employees: that's standard procedure. Any employee that learns of potential sexual misconduct must report it to the Title IX office, regardless of what the potential victim wants.

[Tijuana]

Can we somehow cure ourselves of the epidemic of trivial bullshit that people like you flood this forum with every day?

This place has devolved into a cesspool of endless garbage bait posts.

You could simply not read it, or not respond to it. When the topic sucks, the threads devolve in to discussion about other random things. You are not being harmed by the existence of a part of the internet you take no interest in.

[Mad_Murdock]

I was always told this was a liberal problem. But apparently it now occurs in dark red Kentucky?


But more seriously, ignoring your clickbait, he probably got hit with sexual misconduct for this gem:

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Just an FYI, Louisville and Lexington are fairly liberal, like most all other college towns, they vote blue. The rest of KY is strong red.
Guess wich two counties on this map Louisville and lexington are in, http://www.politico.com/2016-electio...dent/kentucky/

[Garnier Fructis]

It seems far more likely, to me at least, that hypersensitive rape culture antics at at work here and while they know they cant make a criminal case out if it there is nothing stopping them from power tripping on it in house where evidence isn't a requirement.

Reports to police are up to the victim. If, as the update in your OP suggests, the girls wanted to defend the professor, then it's no surprise that no police report was filed. There's no conspiracy or power grab here. This is how the system itself was set up to work.

[God Save The King]

Just an FYI, Louisville and Lexington are fairly liberal, like most all other college towns, they vote blue. The rest of KY is strong red.
Guess wich two counties on this map Louisville and lexington are in, http://www.politico.com/2016-electio...dent/kentucky/

Yeah I'm aware. I'm not an idiot. It was a joke.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Again, which police are they supposed to notify? It happened when the teacher was on a teaching trip in China. What American authorities do you think have jurisdiction of actions taken in China?

The US has been involved in prosecuting people, upon returning home, who commit sex crimes in other nations for a long time now.

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You can't have a professor getting all handsy and gropy every time they make a trip.

A sensible truth predicated on fact that something inappropriate actually happened.

[unfilteredJW]

Life at the bottom of the barrel must be worth it.

[Mad_Murdock]

Yeah I'm aware. I'm not an idiot. It was a joke.

My bad, I didn't realize how blue some of the traditional red states cities where til I watched the 2008 elections

[GreenJesus]

Doesn't need to have a "sexual relationship" to have inappropriate touching.

If during the song he walked up to a group of girls and squeezed their boobs, pressed their nipples, spat on them.. and .. okay.. I'm done here.