Macy's Closing 68 Stores, KMart/Sears Closing 150 - Trump?

[zEmini]

Didn't Macy's announce this like last summer? So technically it is Obama who lost all the jobs. Blame him not Trump!

[Stacyrect]

Come on Trump supporters!! All of you that gave him credit for Ford's hiring plans, the time to speak up and give Trump credit for this is now!!!

It's pretty obvious why macy's is closing down stores, they stopped carrying Trump brands.

Just like obama claimed we saw huge job growth, we saw poverty income job growth. You will get the same guffaw we gave about those jobs being gained, as they are being lost.

Honestly, no one gives a shit about retail jobs

[Incredibale]

Eddie Lampert and his kooky Lord of the Flies management style and its disastrous consequences for Sears/Kmart have been known for years.

Can't speak on Macy's as definitively but they have had troubles for years.

Trump more or less shakes his fist at companies shipping jobs out of country, then becomes president, and various coincidences and maybe-not coincidences happen with jobs moving back into the country.

The connection you're trying to establish is rather shit, you should try harder.

[Gandrake]

fuck kmart lol

worked there for 5 years and was practically supervisor but those assholes paid me slave wages lmao

[Theinquisition]

The jobs which were offshored because they weren't profitable to keep in the US, you mean. There's very little functional difference.

But man, I can't believe Trump is causing department stores to go out of business.

not nessesarily disagreeing. Globalism isn't going anywhere

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Trump saves 800 jobs, then loses 100,000. All job losses and gains are a direct result of glorious leader Trump!

Come on Trumpers, the time to be consistent and not look like hypocrites is now!

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This is pretty much what everyone (except blind and ignorant Trumpers) has been pointing out about the other "gains" that Trump has supposedly been responsible for, but in every case the business had already been planning on doing anything before Trump talked to them.

The point of this thread is to point out the almost hilarious hypocrisy.

Lol, you must still be really salty over the fact that trump won lol.

If you don't like him, he must be doing something right.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

What does trump have to do with the internet owning these markets?

Man politics makes my head spin.

Its a GOOD thing these stores are closing. They were losing money.

[belfpala]

meh...

Wasn't the death of physical stores predicted 20 or more years ago? It happened slower than expected, but Amazon won.

[Underverse]

Eddie Lampert and his kooky Lord of the Flies management style and its disastrous consequences for Sears/Kmart have been known for years.

Can't speak on Macy's as definitively but they have had troubles for years.

Trump more or less shakes his fist at companies shipping jobs out of country, then becomes president, and various coincidences and maybe-not coincidences happen with jobs moving back into the country.

The connection you're trying to establish is rather shit, you should try harder.

You should try reading the post I made, and not just the title.

And that goes for about 40% of the people in this thread. Hook, line, sinker, fishing pole and the whole damn boat.

[unfilteredJW]

You should try reading the post I made, and not just the title.

And that goes for about 40% of the people in this thread. Hook, line, sinker, fishing pole and the whole damn boat.

I'd like to say it was fun but I walk away sad at the complete lack of self awareness.

[Underverse]

I'd like to say it was fun but I walk away sad at the complete lack of self awareness.

People are clearly just looking for an excuse to brawl over their favorite team.

[God Save The King]

Jobs allegedly "saved"

• Ford - 700
• Carrier - 800
• Softbank - 8000
• Dow Chemical - 200

Total: 9,700
Not Bad

Jobs allegedly "lost"

• Macy's- 10000
• Kohl's- 1500
• Carrier- 400
• K-Mart - 12000
• K-Mart - 7500

Total: 31,400

Net gain: - 21700

/golfclap

(*Note, this is obviously a joke post. Do not take it seriously.)

[Kouki]

These major American brands are closing stores all across the country. The timing of these closures brings to question the perceived effect of a Trump presidency on the stability of American consumerism.

But let's stop there. The purpose of this thread is to expose the extensive confirmation bias from self-identified Trump supporters that has plagued just about every news story about a business succeeding in the past few weeks.

If Trump is responsible for those successes, then he must also be responsible for these failures. Now, any rational person would reject both of these arguments - Trump isn't in office yet, and businesses don't plan colossal changes to their strategies on the basis of a few words from an incurable liar; the most they would do is use his election as an excuse for their already-laid plans in order to sway national opinion or gain publicity. But for some reason, select individuals feel the need to justify their support for a candidate by irrational means, as if their own reputation were at stake.

An almost hypothetical question to discuss: Do you think the team mentality that has infiltrated American politics is beneficial to the political decisionmaking process?


Sources:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...Y7K/story.html

http://www.syracuse.com/business-new...sing_list.html

The stock market goes up and down in response to elections thats fact, kmart was already in chapter 11, and sears is moving into chapter 7. so this had nothing to do with trump or the markets reaction to the election blame walmart.

[PACOX]

The war between Walmart and Amazon will be upon us with all the other retailers forced to picked a side.

[Kouki]

The war between Walmart and Amazon will be upon us with all the other retailers forced to picked a side.

Just wait for the food franchise wars i hear taco bell wins.

[Laerrus]

I am getting tired of these "political bait" threads, from both sides. We've dealt with this bullshit for over a year, it's time to let it rest and move on.

It's not Trump's fault and don't go blaming Obama either. I am often surprised at how little some of you people understand how our economy really works and the very small part a President plays in it.

This has been a long time coming and can only be attributed to Trump if you're stupid and grasping for causation out of some weak correlation. Sears has been mentioned as possibly going out of business completely the last few years. This has very little to do with Trump and more with online shopping such as Amazon cutting into the market. The overheard of a physical location and paying employees to be on site in all these locations isnt as cost effective as just maintaining a few warehouses and shipping products, especially as you can get things the next day. It makes sense to close stores after the holiday rush, not before hand.

This guy gets it.

[Noxx79]

You should try reading the post I made, and not just the title.

And that goes for about 40% of the people in this thread. Hook, line, sinker, fishing pole and the whole damn boat.

Yup, a LOOOOOOOOT of people didn't read the OP.

[Independent voter]

Macy's Closing 68 Stores, KMart/Sears Closing 150 - Trump?

No, Amazon Prime.

[zenkai]

These major American brands are closing stores all across the country. The timing of these closures brings to question the perceived effect of a Trump presidency on the stability of American consumerism.

But let's stop there. The purpose of this thread is to expose the extensive confirmation bias from self-identified Trump supporters that has plagued just about every news story about a business succeeding in the past few weeks.

If Trump is responsible for those successes, then he must also be responsible for these failures. Now, any rational person would reject both of these arguments - Trump isn't in office yet, and businesses don't plan colossal changes to their strategies on the basis of a few words from an incurable liar; the most they would do is use his election as an excuse for their already-laid plans in order to sway national opinion or gain publicity. But for some reason, select individuals feel the need to justify their support for a candidate by irrational means, as if their own reputation were at stake.

An almost hypothetical question to discuss: Do you think the team mentality that has infiltrated American politics is beneficial to the political decisionmaking process?


Sources:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...Y7K/story.html

http://www.syracuse.com/business-new...sing_list.html

Trump negotiates with a company to keep jobs and when companies close it's all Trumps fault? LOL When is the last time you been in a Kmart, Macey's or Sears? I went to a Kmart over the holidays, it was dingy and they had a bad selection, they are one of the ones getting closed. Funny enough though I did find what I needed there.