Guns For The Mentally Ill?

[Cuppy]

In USA, yes because constitution and guns for lyfe
Rest of the world, propably no.

[Flarelaine]

I recall actually having gotten myself disqualified from the draft by alternating anxious and trigger-happy in my "interview". I'll take that as an implication my government does not trust unstable people with guns. I support them on this one.

[atlings]

Should toddlers have chainsaws? Argue the pros and cons, if you please.

[HumbleDuck]

The question is pretty vague.
I'm pretty sure every single person in the world suffered some sort of mental illness at some point in their lives.
Do you mean institutionalized patients?

[Alexeht]

Well considering that he is referring to a specific event in the US the question is, should people who have ever been prescribed medication that is primarily used for mental health issues be allowed to have guns.

That would disqualify so many people from owning a gun. And it would also make so gun owners suffering from depression would not seek help or they would take illegal drugs/black market pills (or even worse they would shot themselves).

[zenkai]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/politi...ses/index.html

Should the "mentally ill" be allowed to buy guns?

There is already a thread where this was discussed that the term mentally ill was too broad.

[Alexeht]

Which I understand is what happened (and why it was repealed). I am all for harsher gun control but that particular measure was just stupidly done and allowed for far more overreach. Things should be done properly or not at all

Well harsher gun control would require some kind of test so you would have gun licence right? That would automatically remove all mental sick people from it or disabled (that cannot carry gun in hand and be safe about it). Well in my opinion America gun problem is still not coming from legal gun sales, but from illegal ones. Dealers will not ask for your ID/gun licence/criminal record, no matter what they illegally sell. I think that firearms like shotguns and rifles should be acquired easier, as it is almost impossible to conceal them (and those are weapons which are extremely useful for self defense at home).

[Ghostpanther]

The mentally ill should not be allowed to buy guns of course. But it is already the law on the books here in Ohio. What Obama tried to do was bullshit however. Even the mentally ill have the right to due process. And that can only be determined by the right qualified people.

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Yes but how is mental illness determined? E.g. for open or concealed carry required for security personnel, in Greece we require written testimony by a licensed psychiatrist after at least three recorded sessions for said physician to attest that the individual is suitable to carry a weapon. This certainly requires a far greater commitment and carries more cost than simply parsing through prescribed medication.

Which makes sense. Only here in the US the private citizens have the right to purchase and own certain types of firearms. In a lot of states, even open/conceal carry is a right. But regulations do exist on when/how and where.

[Deleted]

Yes. How can a good mentally ill person protect themselves against a bad mentally ill person otherwise?

Why shouldnt Asperger’s kids have guns? And the schizophrenia suffers? What about those with depression? All would be safer with some guns.

[Ghostpanther]

And you know even that isn't infallible. Some people who are desperate for a security job might find a psychiatrist to pay off and good luck proving that it happened. But at least it parses some people out.

We do not live in a world where everything is perfect and no one makes mistakes. But as you say, it is still effective to a degree. I am opposed to just gun grabbing or denying the right of buying or owning firearms here in the US based on some family members opinion however. There has to be proven records on file for it to happen here, as it should be.

[Archon14]

If you ask me, there should be psychological evaluation for every potentional gun owner. If it's determined you're clearly disturbed/mental/depressed/etc. then you are unfit to use it. Then you can take the test again next year or whatever.
They should also include a physical aspect: learning to shoot properly and how to maintain a gun.

I'm sorry if my opinion triggers someone. That's just how I feel about it, if I ever decide I want a gun, I actually want to be trained and talk to professionals to determine if I'm doing it for the right reasons / with a clear head.

[Poopymonster]

This solves some of the mental health issues in the US.

The suicidal people can now end their lives via firearms they've acquired legally, even after a failed attempt via hanging, overdose, or other various means. This reducing the number of people with mental health issues in the US.

And if a person mows down a school full of kids, the kids were probably going to vote democrat as adults anyway, so it's a win there. #MAGA

[W1sp]

The fact people voted yes amazes me

[Archon14]

The fact people voted yes amazes me

They both seem like a no-brain answer, for different reasons.

[Lumineus]

And if a person mows down a school full of kids

You know, I fear the day when this degree of rampage actually happens because you fools got your way, so the perpetrators of these school massacres start bringing axes and machetes instead, and no longer need to lug around two mags per classroom and an extra rifle in case the first one jams, so they just keep going until their bloodlust runs out.

Gun laws don't remove the source of the problem, which is people. People kill people. The weapon isn't relevant. What are you going to do, restrict edged implements to licensed horticulturists? Ban the sale of steel and whetstones to the general public? What do you think this is, the Meiji Era?