Filling jobs more difficult post Brexit as Eastern Europeans leave UK

[Tennis]

The boss of Nottingham staffing and employment specialist Staffline says the labour market is tightening and Eastern Europeans are beginning to return to their home countries post-Brexit.

Announcing year end financials for the company, chief executive Andy Hogarth said that as the number of jobless fell and migrant workers returned to their own countries such as Poland, filling jobs will become more difficult.

He said Christmas had been "nip and tuck", adding: "We are seeing some people from Eastern Europe going back home because they feel unwelcome in this country and it is an issue.

"As yet, we have not seen British unemployed people picking up the mantle more than they already were."
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He said that the business had survived the EU referendum last June with no ill effects. But he added: "We have no idea how Brexit will really turn out and no idea what the population will be like.

"In general, the country has been very welcoming of people coming in from Eastern Europe and there have been very few incidents that we have recorded or been involved in.
Read more: Nottingham recruitment agency Staffline on track for £1 billion turnover target

"But post the Brexit vote, we had a number of really quite unpleasant incidents on some of the premises we operate, where the indigenous population probably felt vindicated that people had voted for Brexit. There was some fairly unpleasant behaviour towards Eastern Europeans. It has calmed down but there are remnants although not in any large number."

Mr Hogarth said he felt desperately disappointed that people in this country could behave so badly.

A tightening of the labour market will ultimately lead to upward pressure on wages, he said, although the Government's minimum wage would rise this year from £7.20 to £7.50, increasing to £9 by 2020.

"That should encourage people coming in from Europe, assuming they still can, or people currently on benefits to go to work.

"That itself is wage inflation but whether it is enough to keep people hunting for jobs, we won't know until it has happened."

Staffline confirmed it was on course to achieve its ambition of a billion pound turnover by the end of this year.

Revenues to the end of 2016 came in at £882.4m, up 26 percent from £702.3m a year ago. Underlying profit improved by 30 percent from £28.3m to £36.7m.

Chief executive Andy Hogarth said about £100m of growth was organic, coming from existing divisions of the business, while the remainder was from two acquisitions made in October and November 2015.

The company is a specialist in providing recruitment services at its client factories with a strength in the food sector. The number of OnSite offices grew by 52 to 357, which Staffline said made it a clear market leader.

The staffing division supplied more than 50,000 workers a day to over 1,500 clients, it said.

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Filling jobs becomes more difficult as many do not want to work for minimum wage. As a result the economy slows down and everyone suffers.

[iperson]

How can anything have happened post brexit when the brexit hasn't yet happened?

[Tennis]

How can anything have happened post brexit when the brexit hasn't yet happened?

Post Brexit vote duh. You really gonna play semantics mate.

[Deleted]

Hey, narrow-minded and bigoted idiots who stared themselves blind on the narrow outlet of skewed Media gets their cake.

"Their own citizen first"; amirite? Everyone gets to pay for their primitive decision-making. Yet people clamor like it's the apocalypse when i suggest that a majority of people are not above that of cattle, in ways of thinking.

"Me scared, me gonna make bad go away, cuz me know is bad!"

[primalmatter]

It's not really been long enough to say either way. Having probelms filling jobs is a good thing though... means a richer middle class with more spending power.

[iperson]

Post Brexit vote duh. You really gonna play semantics mate.

I thought that was the game we were playing. The factually incorrect title was clearly used to mislead and push an agenda...

[Tennis]

It's not really been long enough to say either way. Having probelms filling jobs is a good thing though... means a richer middle class with more spending power.

If you have jobs that attract hard working people. Then these people leave. What happens? Economic downturn as these companies can't fill these positions.

[Allenseiei]

It's not really been long enough to say either way. Having probelms filling jobs is a good thing though... means a richer middle class with more spending power.

It also means lack of services and personnel. I'm sure most British don't want to do the jobs the immigrants did. Because we are talking about no or low qualification immigrants. I'm sure there is no lack of high qualification immigrants because only retarded countries would reject or kick those people out in the first place.


This is the main problem with limiting immigrations like this. It's all well and good to put your country first, but having citizens from your country working on unprodcutive jobs, or as we called them in college "maintainance" jobs instead of R&D or other qualified jobs simply increases gaps in your own citizen's adquisition power. You aren't going to pay the same to an engineer than a street cleaner. Which means you are actually contradicting yourself. Instead of having immigrants being street cleaners getting low paid jobs, you are forcing your own citizens to go to those jobs.

[Malacrass]

Well, if there is a shortage of workers, wouldn't that also increase the wages longterm?

People do a lot of stuff as long as it enables a "normal" life, financially.

[Kraenen]

Not an econ major, but wouldn't this create a shift towards a labor's market rather than an employer's market? (more power and leverage to the employees/workers/job seekers).

[primalmatter]

If you have jobs that attract hard working people. Then these people leave. What happens? Economic downturn as these companies can't fill these positions.

Yeah no... that isn't how this works that is only if there is a severe lack of workers. Companies compete for labor and offer better wages...

I would say read a book either on history or economics but I know you won't. Again though it is to soon to tell either way.

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It also means lack of services and personnel. I'm sure most British don't want to do the jobs the immigrants did.


This is the main problem with limiting immigrations like this. It's all well and good to put your country first, but having citizens from your country working on unprodcutive jobs, or as we called them in college "maintainance" jobs instead of R&D or other qualified jobs simply increases gaps in your own citizen's adquisition power. You aren't going to pay the same to an engineer than a street cleaner.

They won't do the same work for the same pay is the difference. That is a good thing not a bad thing. If a service is so useless that you can't attract workers for it at a reasonable wage I promise you that it isn't a important job.

[Kraenen]

It also means lack of services and personnel. I'm sure most British don't want to do the jobs the immigrants did.


This is the main problem with limiting immigrations like this. It's all well and good to put your country first, but having citizens from your country working on unprodcutive jobs, or as we called them in college "maintainance" jobs instead of R&D or other qualified jobs simply increases gaps in your own citizen's adquisition power. You aren't going to pay the same to an engineer than a street cleaner.

Probably better in the medium to long term though. Those "maintenance" jobs are being filled by automation, so by the time that happens there will be less competition for the R&D/qualified jobs (which would've included immigrants now out of basic maintenance work looking to move up the ladder).

[Independent voter]

We could use a million Eastern Europeans.

[Allenseiei]

Yeah no... that isn't how this works that is only if there is a severe lack of workers. Companies compete for labor and offer better wages...

I would say read a book either on history or economics but I know you won't. Again though it is to soon to tell either way.

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They won't do the same work for the same pay is the difference. That is a good thing not a bad thing. If a service is so useless that you can't attract workers for it at a reasonable wage I promise you that it isn't a important job.

There are no "useless" services. There are low paying ones. No one wants to be a street cleaner, a garbage man or other type of low paying jobs. It's not a popular thing to be working in. Immigrants tend to get these jobs instead of natives, and they are important just not high paying. Natives prefer more socialy recognized jobs.

[Serpha]

lol poor Eastern Europeans can't catch a break. What ever they do, where ever they go something is always their fault.

[Vash The Stampede]

Filling jobs becomes more difficult as many do not want to work for minimum wage. As a result the economy slows down and everyone suffers.

Or you could just increase the wages people are willing to work for? BTW how do people justify this when you're basically enacting a form of torture to immigrants? Better than starving in your fail country? Now enjoy that cardboard box with bread and water, while you do that thing my business needs.

[iperson]

If you have jobs that attract hard working people. Then these people leave. What happens? Economic downturn as these companies can't fill these positions at the wages being offered.

Fixed that for you... wages going up isn't a bad thing...

[Allenseiei]

Probably better in the medium to long term though. Those "maintenance" jobs are being filled by automation, so by the time that happens there will be less competition for the R&D/qualified jobs (which would've included immigrants now out of basic maintenance work looking to move up the ladder).

Your scenario does not exist in the present. Automatons are not a thing and won't be untill decades. You need the manpower right now for low qualified jobs. If there's a shortage of people, you will have garbage pilling up in the streets, roads lacking maintainance, etc. Strikes because maintainance workers have to work more than before to cover for lack of personnel, which means higher wages to stop the strikes, which ultimately means higher taxes for everyone. Government money is not free, citizens pay for it.

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Fixed that for you... wages going up isn't a bad thing...

You always pay the higher wages with higher prices in the products where those wages have gone up.

[Kraenen]

Your scenario does not exist in the present. Automatons are not a thing and won't be untill decades. You need the manpower right now for low qualified jobs. If there's a shortage of people, you will have garbage pilling up in the streets, roads lacking maintainance, etc. Strikes because maintainance workers have to work more than before to cover for lack of personnel, which means higher wages to stop the strikes, which ultimately means higher taxes for everyone. Government money is not free, citizens pay for it.

Sure, but remember when automation does fill up those roles, what will you do with the immigrants who moved to do those jobs? Now they're competing for the qualified jobs, pushing wages down and creating more college debt. Which will have to be covered by either government/citizens or less consumption. Or they're unemployed, increasing destitution, social unrest, and more government spending.

It's all a trade off isn't it?

[iperson]

Your scenario does not exist in the present. Automatons are not a thing and won't be untill decades. You need the manpower right now for low qualified jobs. If there's a shortage of people, you will have garbage pilling up in the streets, roads lacking maintainance, etc. Strikes because maintainance workers have to work more than before to cover for lack of personnel, which means higher wages to stop the strikes, which ultimately means higher taxes for everyone. Government money is not free, citizens pay for it.

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You always pay the higher wages with higher prices in the products where those wages have gone up.

So people at the bottom must stay there so you can save a few bucks on your lattes and take out. How progressive...