Is Alodi the most powerful wizard in the Warcraft Universe?

[Combatbutler]

why is jaina last <_< i would put her under khadgar but still much stronger then the player.. i think you forget she was taking on arthas solo, and had the power to destroy all of orgrimmar in one spell but decided not to...

She didn't really take on Arthas solo, she challenged him and realized she was utterly screwed and escaped alongside the players and the destruction of Orgrimmar was only possible due to the focusing Iris, without it she would have nowhere near the strength to pull of such a spell by herself.

Fun thing The Iris is stolen in legion yet again

[talwynn]

You forgot Med'an. Blizz still insists he's canon, making him the strongest Mage, Shaman, Paladin and Cringeweaver.

"The issue of Med'an being canon or not is something that had been brought up in the fanbase since his introduction. When asked about it at BlizzCon 2016, Alex Afrasiabi responded: "Certain fiction exists outside the World of Warcraft that we love, but is it necessarily what we would consider canon? So Med'an as Guardian, isn't considered canon in Warcraft lore, which is why in the last five years you haven't seen a reference to him. Um, so, that doesn't mean that there can't be a story for Med'an, it's just not like it was laid out in the comics."

Med'an as guardian is not canon for World of Warcraft.

[Deleted]

when people say "nobody can ever hope to beat me" they don't mean it in an absolute sense. it's either bragging or relative to known factors.

logic dictates that due to how the guardian process works, over time on average each successive guardian becomes more and more powerful. the only real thing that can counterbalance this is guardians tendency to split and store their power in all kinds of places for future use, but i think overall the process still is a net power increase.

[Traveler Voltin]

"The issue of Med'an being canon or not is something that had been brought up in the fanbase since his introduction. When asked about it at BlizzCon 2016, Alex Afrasiabi responded: "Certain fiction exists outside the World of Warcraft that we love, but is it necessarily what we would consider canon? So Med'an as Guardian, isn't considered canon in Warcraft lore, which is why in the last five years you haven't seen a reference to him. Um, so, that doesn't mean that there can't be a story for Med'an, it's just not like it was laid out in the comics."

Med'an as guardian is not canon for World of Warcraft.

He quit being guardian and left at the end of the comic. So no duh

[talwynn]

He quit being guardian and left at the end of the comic. So no duh

Judging by their statement, the dev's never considered Med'an as guardian as canon.

[darkoms]

What nonsense is this? Khadgar and Jaina said that Aegwynn strongest of the Guardians. And Malygos and Azshara is much more powerful.
Blizzard said that Jaina is the most powerful human mage alive. It was around the beginning of Pandaria. It is stronger than Khadgar. And his Atiesh not save him. In a staff Jains (which used to belong to Antonidas) is a remnant of strength Lei Shen.

[Friendlyimmolation]

What nonsense is this? Khadgar and Jaina said that Aegwynn strongest of the Guardians. And Malygos and Azshara is much more powerful.
Blizzard said that Jaina is the most powerful human mage alive. It was around the beginning of Pandaria. It is stronger than Khadgar. And his Atiesh not save him. In a staff Jains (which used to belong to Antonidas) is a remnant of strength Lei Shen.

Blizzard never said Jaina was the most powerful human mage alive. They said she was the strongest female human mage alive. So im going to throw this back at you. Thalen songweaver, who was under both Aethas and Rommath, staggered off her arcane blast she threw with "all of her might"

What nonsense is this?

[Aquamonkey]

Jaina's full power arcane blast did less damage than getting bonked on the back of the head.

Jaina whirled and, with all her might, sent a massive blast of arcane energy directly at Thalen Songweaver.
In his arrogance, he was not expecting it. He stumbled back but recovered quickly. The blood elf stared at Jaina. For an instant, it appeared as if Thalen would protest his innocence, but then his white brows drew together as he sneered and lifted his hands.
He dropped like a stone. Pained stood behind him, still holding the sword whose hilt had so inelegantly yet efficiently disabled the foe.
--Tides of Darkness

No flask, or pots. Doesn't use CDs... I'd never let Jaina in my raid team.

[DemonHunter18]

Blizzard never said Jaina was the most powerful human mage alive. They said she was the strongest female human mage alive. So im going to throw this back at you. Thalen songweaver, who was under both Aethas and Rommath, staggered off her arcane blast she threw with "all of her might"

bad writing.

Thor struggled against a building level opponent and he got pushed back it.

but Thor is a planet buster and can take on Thanos few chapters later.

[Friendlyimmolation]

bad writing.

Thor struggled against a building level opponent and he got pushed back it.

but Thor is a planet buster and can take on Thanos few chapters later.

Jaina has never been shown to be amazingly powerful. The first time is when she has the focusing iris.

[roahn the warlock]

azshara and aegwynn were stronger.

i think azshara >= aegwynn > alodi >= medivh > moonguard illidan > khadgar >= player archmage > jaina

I would put Jaina before Khadgar. She's listed as the most powerful sorceress on Azeroth, and wields the staff of antionidas empowered with Lei Shen's lightning.

[DemonHunter18]

Jaina has never been shown to be amazingly powerful. The first time is when she has the focusing iris.

maybe not a top tier but from that wriiting shit, she is a fodder which is, you know ridiculous. if he took a mediocre damage then ok but basically nothing is LMAO.

now I just wait for Azshara to turn out to be disappointment so that people can stop fucking overrate her.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I would put Jaina before Khadgar. She's listed as the most powerful sorceress on Azeroth, and wields the staff of antionidas empowered with Lei Shen's lightning.

most powerful human sorceress.

[roahn the warlock]

Blizzard never said Jaina was the most powerful human mage alive. They said she was the strongest female human mage alive. So im going to throw this back at you. Thalen songweaver, who was under both Aethas and Rommath, staggered off her arcane blast she threw with "all of her might"

People like to bring that up like it means literally anything. I know 15 year olds like to hate on Jaina but she was not only the leader of the Kirin Tor, but holds the power of lei shen in her staff. One sentence from a side story doesn't mean anything.

[Makorus]

So basically, Jaina is trash tier but she has a strong staff?

[Friendlyimmolation]

People like to bring that up like it means literally anything. I know 15 year olds like to hate on Jaina but she was not only the leader of the Kirin Tor, but holds the power of lei shen in her staff. One sentence from a side story doesn't mean anything.

Go ahead and point out anything Jaina did was that impressive without the focusing iris. She was leader of the Kirin tor because of a prophecy, not because of any skill. And the "side story" was Tides of war which is an important part of the lore even if you try to hand-wave it away because "people like to bring that up like it means literally anything" does not change the fact that with all of her might she couldn't do shit to another blood elf mage.

She has a fragment of the thunderking's power and still she has done nothing that screams uber mage.

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So basically, Jaina is trash tier but she has a strong staff?

she's powerful, but she wouldnt walk over other mages like Khadagar/Rommath/Elisande/etc

[iamthedevil]

Don't alter facts depending on your favoring or disliking a character.

They wrote, "i think" meaning its an opinion.

[purebalance]

azshara and aegwynn were stronger.

i think azshara >= aegwynn > alodi >= medivh > moonguard illidan > khadgar >= player archmage > jaina

Azshara was only the most powerful while she had the well. Prior to the well she was not the most powerful and now that she doesn't have the well, she's even weaker than she was due to how it works with those as massively addicted.

Jaina also has titanic power in her staff.

Medivh would be stronger than Aegwynn as all of her guardian power went into him and added to his latent powers he would have had as the son of two strong mages.

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What nonsense is this? Khadgar and Jaina said that Aegwynn strongest of the Guardians. And Malygos and Azshara is much more powerful.
Blizzard said that Jaina is the most powerful human mage alive. It was around the beginning of Pandaria. It is stronger than Khadgar. And his Atiesh not save him. In a staff Jains (which used to belong to Antonidas) is a remnant of strength Lei Shen.

Azshara IS not more powerful than any of them from what we know at the moment. Now unless she somehow unearthed some ancient power, she's essentially a garbage tier mage now with DT's from not getting any well power in a very long time.

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Judging by their statement, the dev's never considered Med'an as guardian as canon.

That's because the devs don't know their own lore as usual. People were citing what "Medivh" said in the video yet it wasn't Medivh, but rather a dreadlord and Khadgar might not have known about Medan. Then Blizzard chimes in more than likely because they're listening to the idiots commenting on the video and who don't know that Medan gave up his powers and made a comment that was unneeded.

[talwynn]

That's because the devs don't know their own lore as usual. People were citing what "Medivh" said in the video yet it wasn't Medivh, but rather a dreadlord and Khadgar might not have known about Medan. Then Blizzard chimes in more than likely because they're listening to the idiots commenting on the video and who don't know that Medan gave up his powers and made a comment that was unneeded.

I am going to go with the devs and believe that Med'an doesn't actually exist in World of Warcraft. He may in a comic, but it's kind of like a Star Wars comic. WoW is like the movies which is the true canon, anything else is subject to not being being a part of that primary story.

[Aquamonkey]

That's because the devs don't know their own lore as usual. People were citing what "Medivh" said in the video yet it wasn't Medivh, but rather a dreadlord and Khadgar might not have known about Medan. Then Blizzard chimes in more than likely because they're listening to the idiots commenting on the video and who don't know that Medan gave up his powers and made a comment that was unneeded.

Med'an learned about his parents from Khadgar. Khadgar declined to join the New Council of Tirisfal in the comics.

I am going to go with the devs and believe that Med'an doesn't actually exist in World of Warcraft. He may in a comic, but it's kind of like a Star Wars comic. WoW is like the movies which is the true canon, anything else is subject to not being being a part of that primary story.

They're not analogous. The comics and everything published by Blizzard are canon (except the RPG) this applies for all the main Blizzard franchises.