Justice rains from above Brawl

[Reklia]

They need to re-work this. On the capture maps its slow, but if you get this brawl on a payload then god help you. Whichever you get being on the attacking side is a big disadvantage.

I do like the idea of the brawl but for one spent 90% time in the air capturing or escorting is not the best idea. If it was an elimination, like first to 50 kills then great idea!

What do you guys think? How to make this brawl enjoyable? (apart from removing it lol).

[Fluffyfluff]

Its is very simple if you don't enjoy it don't play it. Just because you don't personally like it doesn't mean it should be changed or removed that's just arrogant.

[Reklia]

Its is very simple if you don't enjoy it don't play it. Just because you don't personally like it doesn't mean it should be changed or removed that's just arrogant.

You misunderstand. I created this thread for discussion. Its not a popular brawl and if you had played it would know how frustrating it can be. I've seen more people leave when they see this brawl and more complain than any other brawl.

[Fluffyfluff]

How do you know its not a popular brawl have you asked everyone who plays this mode if they like it or not can you provide any statistics to show how popular it is ? Got any evidence or is it just your opinion asserting it as fact. Welcome to the discussion

[Anzaman]

Quite often whenever I see this brawl pop-up, people just instantly leave and most of the time game cancels it as there wasn't enough players.

Tho, I'm one of the leavers as well, I prefer going for Mystery Heroes (so I don't end up going back to same game) for a while instead of just flying around map for few minutes.

[Lynarii]

Even if you really really like a specific brawl, there's no harm in discussing ways it could potentially be even better. If you enjoy the brawl, it's better to say "Here's what I enjoy about it" than to get upset at people for wanting to talk about it.

From my perspective, I really do like Pharah v Pharah aerial duels. But it just seems better suited to deathmatch play than to map objectives. Taking 6 Pharahs vs 6 Pharahs, then saying "One of you must stand here on the ground and stay there" is just asking someone to sacrifice themselves to splash damage.

[Graeham]

I think it's terribly designed for anything other than the likes of Oasis and Nepal where both teams start and persist in having equal footing in terms of distance to travel between their spawn and the objective.

I could say the same about many brawl and map combinations though. They just don't work and need adjustments/limitations for the sake of balance and enjoyment. The amount of people who leave abruptly the moment they see certain map/brawl combinations says it all, really.

[Jester Joe]

It's the worst brawl to exist honestly in my opinion.

There needs to be something, decreased Pharah health perhaps, increase hitbox for the rockets, I dunno.

I'm glad that usually one side leaves during this brawl, so it closes the match.

[xChurch]

I wish they could add some sort of opt-out for brawls, then you could avoid the ones you really dislike and Blizzard could see which ones people are opting out of.

[Orangetai420]

I wish they could add some sort of opt-out for brawls, then you could avoid the ones you really dislike and Blizzard could see which ones people are opting out of.

Yea, a blacklist system like we have in WoW for BGs would be cool.

[Mormolyce]

I think we need more brawls period, I get this one way too often. I don't mind it occasionally.

It's the worst brawl to exist honestly in my opinion.

There needs to be something, decreased Pharah health perhaps, increase hitbox for the rockets, I dunno.

I'm glad that usually one side leaves during this brawl, so it closes the match.

IMO drastically reduce the charge time for ultis. Rocket barrages going off all over the place would make the game move along much faster.

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Yea, a blacklist system like we have in WoW for BGs would be cool.

I really really hate that system in WoW. Absolutely ruined any semblance of BG balance.

Though it'd be different in OW since it doesn't have factions.

[Orangetai420]

I really really hate that system in WoW. Absolutely ruined any semblance of BG balance.

Though it'd be different in OW since it doesn't have factions.

You mean Horde vs Alliance balance? IME it was always that way, Alliance has won AV for all of time.

But yes, I agree that we wouldn't have a problem like this in OW.

[Jester Joe]

IMO drastically reduce the charge time for ultis. Rocket barrages going off all over the place would make the game move along much faster.

I was thinking that, but then I thought it just makes the Pharah a stationary target, so she'll die in a second anyway.

[Endus]

If you're spending that much time in the air on payloads, you're probably not doing it right, especially on defense. Assuming you mean staying up out of range of the payload. I spend a lot of my time, on attack OR defense on this one, right by the payload. It ain't gonna push itself.

[Mormolyce]

You mean Horde vs Alliance balance? IME it was always that way, Alliance has won AV for all of time.

But yes, I agree that we wouldn't have a problem like this in OW.

No it used to be like 60-40 at most. Since the change it's 90-10. Turned people's attitude to the skewed win rate into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I was thinking that, but then I thought it just makes the Pharah a stationary target, so she'll die in a second anyway.

That's the point! High risk high reward.

Also loads of Mercy ults going off would counter that a bit.

[Orangetai420]

No it used to be like 60-40 at most. Since the change it's 90-10. Turned people's attitude to the skewed win rate into a self-fulfilling prophecy.



That's the point! High risk high reward.

Also loads of Mercy ults going off would counter that a bit.

Well I cant remember losing AV to anything but a premade. Then again, I'm not one of the idiots thay stops at galv - i go all the way to the keep.

[zito]

This and shimada brothers brawl is fucking awful. Shimada brothers wouldn't be so bad if they didn't reduce the CD on all abilities, it's useless to be hanzo tbh.

[xChurch]

This and shimada brothers brawl is fucking awful. Shimada brothers wouldn't be so bad if they didn't reduce the CD on all abilities, it's useless to be hanzo tbh.

Ya I don't get that one, I mean Genji is a Hanzo counter normally, with a 2 second dash and deflect he's an even stronger counter. I know it's for the epic ninja duels but being Hanzo might as well give you a giant target over your head.

[Deleted]

I love it, we had so much fun on those brawls especially if nobody can aim and you are the one farming the team.