Marks Trinket Conundrum - 875 Urn with Socket vs 895 Foci

[aquagene]

Hi all - have a bit of a conundrum here and would like some feedback on.

I currently have 3 trinkets. CoF for my first slot, but deciding on my second slot has been a pain.

I have an 875 Ethereal Urn (1635 Agi, 1075 Mastery) with a socket (150 Mastery) and an 895 Entwined Elemental Foci (1968 Agi, proc). I can't really follow the trinket chart because of the socket. Thoughts?

[gushDH]

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[aquagene]

I use Simcraft extensively, thanks though. That being said, Simcraft is not the end all be-all so I was hoping for some feedback. or actual constructive conversation. Edit: forgot to mention they sim about even, with Foci being about 1k more potentially.

My thoughts are that the Urn amounts to a stat stick close to potentially 885 due to the socket, and is more reliable, while the Foci has the potential to be stronger, but the procs create more RNG issues.

[Vindicit]

Foci is highly unreliable. I dont know how many procs its supposed to average but I mostly see 2-3 procs for an entire fight. I have a feeling that it just sims high. I no longer use my 895 foci and switched go an Eye of Guarm. Your Urn is a little low so maybe the Foci is better for you but I have an 885 Urn that I would use over my 895 Foci.

[Measure]

I really do not like the foci. The arcane enchant has a higher proc chance than the rest based on anecdotal observation. They could all be equal and i just consistently get unlucky with it. The foci is a real gamble, you can go a whole fight and only get 2 procs. I'd sim it and if the urn is within 5k or so of the foci i'd just use the urn for more reliability.

Also, so jealous of that CoF. I've gotten 6 pieces of loot from Elisane now and no trinket. Feelsbadman. Do you have boots?

[aquagene]

I've had pretty bad luck with Legs, I got Sephuz and Zevrim's currently.

[Deleted]

Imho get the Ursoc trinket and cof from elisandre. The Ursoc trinket is even in heroic better than the spellblade trinket on mythic because of it's 40% uptime. And it should be easily to get.