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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by lokoma View Post
    you know things are bad when even the community ambassadors are a sham....
    Oh come on. Slipmat is a meme at this point.

  2. #102
    this Sums up the game entirely

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "Generation snowflake" is what you call anyone critical of these decisions?
    Generation Snowflake is now an accepted term:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

    It's even an accepted Dictionary entry, sometimes called Snowflake Generation:

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...ake-generation

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d...ake-generation

    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/u...ake-generation

    You can go to any Game Forum, including this site, and instantly see examples of it.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    Generation Snowflake is now an accepted term:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

    It's even an accepted Dictionary entry, sometimes called Snowflake Generation:

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...ake-generation

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d...ake-generation

    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/u...ake-generation

    You can go to any Game Forum, including this site, and instantly see examples of it.
    Nobody was asking if it was an accepted term or not were they? You were using it to try and sweep criticism under the rug which doesn't work.

  5. #105
    Maybe if they'd open up a server that was just the original game and nothing else...I'd really enjoy that.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    Generation Snowflake is now an accepted term:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

    It's even an accepted Dictionary entry, sometimes called Snowflake Generation:

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...ake-generation

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d...ake-generation

    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/u...ake-generation

    You can go to any Game Forum, including this site, and instantly see examples of it.
    And that matters why? You're still insulting anyone that dares criticize anything with Rift/Trion, which creates the appearance that its community, which you are an "ambassador" for, is hyper-insular and hostile towards outsiders who don't share their fanatical devotion.

    Or did you just want to argue semantics because you have nothing to actually discuss that's on topic?

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodaway View Post
    Maybe if they'd open up a server that was just the original game and nothing else...I'd really enjoy that.
    I still maintain what I said. I they opened up Vanilla Rift servers or Storm Legion then I'd play the shit out of it.

  8. #108
    I think vanilla right right up to the expansion, so it has the dungeon finder and the new soul and profession settings and Ember Isle would be the perfect setup....as long as others would play so it was populated enough to do the dungeons and raids.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodaway View Post
    I think vanilla right right up to the expansion, so it has the dungeon finder and the new soul and profession settings and Ember Isle would be the perfect setup....as long as others would play so it was populated enough to do the dungeons and raids.
    Honestly. They could make it B2P and I'd buy it. Vanilla or Storm Legion.

    They actually had content unlike Starfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And that matters why? You're still insulting anyone that dares criticize anything with Rift/Trion, which creates the appearance that its community, which you are an "ambassador" for, is hyper-insular and hostile towards outsiders who don't share their fanatical devotion.

    Or did you just want to argue semantics because you have nothing to actually discuss that's on topic?
    Community Ambassador is just a tag they throw at anyone who will blindly defend them.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And that matters why? You're still insulting anyone that dares criticize anything with Rift/Trion, which creates the appearance that its community, which you are an "ambassador" for, is hyper-insular and hostile towards outsiders who don't share their fanatical devotion.
    Are you really trying to tell me that every single post on this sub Forum is by genuine, concerned players and not one post is a trolling, game bashing one? seriously?

    While there are a few concerned players you cannot say that every post is a "constructive criticism" one.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    Are you really trying to tell me that every single post on this sub Forum is by genuine, concerned players and not one post is a trolling, game bashing one? seriously?

    While there are a few concerned players you cannot say that every post is a "constructive criticism" one.
    And yours aren't blindly defending the game? God forbid people say something mean about Trion or Rift right? They pretty much brought it on themselves when they started swapping quality for how fast they can make money. Raid gear, Gear slots and Soul packs are some prime examples of when quality started to dip.

    The majority of posters here myself included are vocally critical of Rift because we want it to improve. All you do here is vehemently defend it (which by the way you are in the minority in on the official forums too) and take shots at any poster here dismissing their critique as "bashing".

    If you genuinely think the quality of content so far is acceptable then that is blind defense. Because I've never played a game where content has been this unpolished or disabled consistently on launch because they never tested it.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2017-03-23 at 05:09 PM.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    Are you really trying to tell me that every single post on this sub Forum is by genuine, concerned players and not one post is a trolling, game bashing one? seriously?
    Nope, I never said nor implied that. However, if people are here just to game bash, report them. That's against the rules and folks get hit for that (I think even in this thread). That's the proper way to deal with people bashing the game, reporting them and not engaging.

    You acting just as shitty in return doesn't benefit any discussion here, nor does it reflect well back upon the Rift community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    While there are a few concerned players you cannot say that every post is a "constructive criticism" one.
    Never said that. You're putting words in my mouth (well, fingers) with statements like this in order to have the discussion you want to have rather than the discussion that's actually going on. That's your problem to deal with, not mine.

  13. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Nobody outside of WoW fans looking to shit on other games and a hyperminority of the hardest of hardcore fans have unironically called a game a "WoW killer" since the days of WAR.
    Sorry to disagree, but I clearly remember hordes of posters claiming seriously that Rift was the wow killer.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Ask View Post
    Sorry to disagree, but I clearly remember hordes of posters claiming seriously that Rift was the wow killer.
    Hordes of posters have claimed nearly every big MMO after WoW would. And well here we are 13 years later.

  15. #115
    was a interesting PRODUCER’S LETTER mr Archonix has passion for the game and apparently the criticism and trolling is so bad it was even mentioned in the LETTER
    i do hope rift can get back on track....


    https://twitter.com/Riftgame/status/845421394892599296
    more of this kind of thing you don't see this from any other company
    Last edited by lokoma; 2017-03-25 at 05:00 AM.

  16. #116
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    If you have a dedicated fanbase, MMOs can survive really well even at a very low number of players. Just look at DAoC, which even survived it's inoffiical sequel (WAR). I think DAoC is currently at around 1,000 players at peak hours. It probably has around 3,000 subs or something like that, paying between 15 and 30$ per month (many subs have two accounts because of buffbots). They are making between 50,000 and 100,000$ from subs each month. Easily enough to keep up those 1 or 2 servers they need and 4-5 people maintaining the game.

    That said, DAoC is still offering a playing mode (open RvR) that you simply won't find in other games in the same way. I do not think a game that is F2P and makes it's money from ingame sales, which on top of it does not have any special gameplay no one else offers will be able to survive like that.

  17. #117
    I involuntary abandoned Rift.

    This was some years ago... after a hiatus of some months I tried to log in to Rift and because that I haven't logged in in some months time the game asked me for my security questions which at this point I had no idea what the heck they were.

    So good job Rift you lost one player who actually wanted to play the game and I don't think that I'm the only one.
    "Every country has the government it deserves."
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  18. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    I involuntary abandoned Rift.

    This was some years ago... after a hiatus of some months I tried to log in to Rift and because that I haven't logged in in some months time the game asked me for my security questions which at this point I had no idea what the heck they were.

    So good job Rift you lost one player who actually wanted to play the game and I don't think that I'm the only one.
    haha same happend to me. So i could make a new account, was free to play at that point but lost my at the time max level charcter.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    I involuntary abandoned Rift.

    This was some years ago... after a hiatus of some months I tried to log in to Rift and because that I haven't logged in in some months time the game asked me for my security questions which at this point I had no idea what the heck they were.

    So good job Rift you lost one player who actually wanted to play the game and I don't think that I'm the only one.
    I don't see how this is Trion's fault. You forgot the answers to your questions and blame the company?

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodaway View Post
    I don't see how this is Trion's fault. You forgot the answers to your questions and blame the company?
    I have to agree with this. Don't blame the company because you couldn't remember your security questions. I keep mine written down in a book that is stored in a lockbox.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2017-04-22 at 03:08 PM.

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