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  1. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    you do realize that the 940 legendaries and generally higher weapon ilvls inflate ilvl way more than titanforging does for the average character right?
    Absolutly. Assuming you have a 905 ilvl piece in every slot, the 2 legendaries and a 925 ilvl artifact increases you ilvl by 6 with a 2H artifact and 7 with 1H+OH artifact and you are at 911-912 ilvl without any wf/tf pieces.

  2. #342

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohoots View Post
    PTR updated now

    Tomb heroic is 915-925
    Tomb mythic is 930-940...

    Same as Nighthold which on the PTR was equal to EN ilvl untill it was hotfixed in before going live nothing to see here.. Still normal progression
    Mid-tier raid and already more than 100 item levels above heroic dungeon loot. 2nd squish incoming next expansion...

  3. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by coprax View Post
    Mid-tier raid and already more than 100 item levels above heroic dungeon loot. 2nd squish incoming next expansion...
    All items can go to ilvl 955 afair (legendaries go to 970, weapons even more), so yeah...Its insane that this expansion went from 751ilvl(Highest ilvl dropped by Archimonde+10ilvls upgrade) to 955 epics,970 legendaries, 1000ilvl weapons and its still not over. Titanforge is just bullshit.

  4. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by Flurryfang View Post
    Preach is a guy completly controlled by his own emotions and his own player-situation. If you wanted an overall look at the game, Preach is the last guy you should go to.
    And yet his video got preached (...ok) in another post a week ago discussing the legion burnout

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    This game should be based on meritocracy and not luck.

    The gap between mythic players and "lesser" players has never been smaller. It should be just as large as the difference in difficulty.

  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by cetraben View Post
    My preferred commentary format starts with "Sup y'all, it's me, it's ya boi Asmongold"
    Ha ha, I totally read it in his voice too.

  7. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by Worstenemy View Post
    Thrill of the kill - he dosen't feel that
    Loot- he dosen't feel satisfaction in getting it
    Achievments - dosen't care for them

    ...

    Why is he playing this game again?
    and they say theres no such thing as a dumb question. Momma always told me to think before I spoke.

    Time invested? Boredom? Loyalty to guild? Real life friends? A combo of thereof? And that took ~5 seconds off the top of my head. Largely due to those being much of the reason im playing this abysmal expac. Almost summer though ;p 3 more bosses to go. Wait nm, they reset our AP grind and called that content!

    good thing we dont "actually" have to raid to have great gear, we can just do ez mode 5 man stuff with rollups that happen 50% of the time.

    #offonatangent.

  8. #348
    Quote Originally Posted by Potentio View Post
    This game should be based on meritocracy and not luck.

    The gap between mythic players and "lesser" players has never been smaller. It should be just as large as the difference in difficulty.
    The skill gap between the least dedicated and least skilled players and the best ones is granular, and now the rewards are as well, they just brought the rewards in line with what actual meritocracy would demand. You want a binary exclusive system based as much on social barriers as merit. Thats not asking for meritocracy, its asking for more extreme country club WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromatus View Post
    And yet his video got preached (...ok) in another post a week ago discussing the legion burnout
    Just because his video here is kind of bad, does not mean that he can't make a good one Preaches video here is made from a specific point of view and is not objective, and even with his character normally being like this, it does not stop him from making good videos.

    Also, this is all my personal opnion and analysis of his work. Other people might think very different, which is proberly why he still has several 100k subs on Youtube.
    May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimnakh View Post
    The skill gap between the least dedicated and least skilled players and the best ones is granular,
    Yeah, sure. Granular differences, sure.

    Really hard to spot the differences between people that would not kill a boss in LFR without the heroic/mythic raiders and dedicated M+ playersiin there and people clearing 4+ mythic bosses. Hardly any differences...

    That has to be one of the most ridiculous claims I have ever rread here...which is saying a lot.
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  11. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by iluwen_de View Post
    Yeah, sure. Granular differences, sure.

    Really hard to spot the differences between people that would not kill a boss in LFR without the heroic/mythic raiders and dedicated M+ playersiin there and people clearing 4+ mythic bosses. Hardly any differences...

    That has to be one of the most ridiculous claims I have ever rread here...which is saying a lot.
    Do you not know what granular means?

  12. #352
    Every thing he said in that fight is correct. Not sure what the issue is honestly. Unless it makes you seem more hardcore to shit on him.

  13. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyalo View Post
    I imagine he doesn't. He tried to leave WoW once before and shift his channel to SWTOR, it was a horrible mistake and he quickly came back.

    Very few WoW content producers succeed after they move away from WoW, there's just so many players generating income.
    Preach never played SWTOR, Andy (Ghost) did. Preach hasn't touched the game as far as I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by thottstation View Post
    I never used to understand the resentment people have for Preach.

    Then I realized it IS resentment, not simple hate. They resent how he is one of many people that have successfully monetized his hobby. Not only is his job just sitting and playing WoW, and talking about what he thinks is bad about it and what he thinks the game should do instead, but he has monetized it to such a degree that not only has he's quit his job and made THIS his job, but he's leasing offices and employing people. And hosting his own PreachCon.

    Meanwhile, everyone else goes on forums and complain about the game, and their only reward is maybe someone replies (good or bad. Any reply is acceptable as long as someone acknowledges them). That's it. They bitterly, bitterly resent him.

    That, and the whole "I hate people who clear mythic because I don't" thing. But that's just a default. It's mostly the "I get payed to play and complain about video games" thing. The fact that he makes enough to become not only self-employed but an employer is what sends most people over the vitriolic edge.
    this. every last one of you wishes they could have his job, no point denying it. Jealous AF! And yes of course he gets some stuff wrong in his class guides, he does do 34 of them (36 now in the next expansion). he also released a video saying why he wont be making class guides for all classes this expansion and that is of course for the artifact weapon thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    The more I see of Nighthold the less I like it. I feel like people don't quite see it yet, but raiding in LEGION will be remembered as one of the worst addons. The reality of bad design didn't quite hit people yet. But in 2-3 years everybody, besides the few odd people who love having a different opinion just for the sake of having a different opinion, is going to look back on LEGION as a failed design in terms of raids.
    (I still like raiding, but LEGION just doesn't feel right. It is something between the lines that takes some time for the broad masses to comprehend)
    the best addition to the game in Legion is the Demon hunter class, the worst? Artifect weapons and AP! hands down the worst thing they have EVER done. it feels so lazy, so they design 36 unique weapon models (for all the specs), then they design some skins for said weapons and that pretty much covers that gear slot. they do't have to design new weapon models for drops or anything. it feels really really lazy and a cop out. And don't get me started on these F'ing tokens.. now they can just reward AP for everything, saves so much time on designing other rewards instead... I hate the artifact weapons and I hate AP! if they don't get rid of them the next expansion, I won't buy it. this was a big mistake. The only thing cool are some of the skins, but they could easily be weapon drops instead. the unique druid forms are the only thing about it that I actually like, I hate the rest, even if some look good.
    I'm currently unsubbed from the game, I'm thinking about resubbing now 7.2 comes out, which Preach by the way predicted would come in march, everyone else said june. But I don't know. I might just stick to SWTOR as I find it at least as fun as legion and it's F2P too. I might sub 1 month or so to get my class mount and flying and the warebear form for my druid, but thats it. but we can pretty much agree that the core game play of legion is horse rubbish. that would be: artifact weapons and AP.

    but this isn't about the state of legion is it? it's dedicated to some video Preach made about the current state of mythic raiding. some say he pulls numbers out of Ghosty's ass, others disagree. I can't believe it has reached this many pages of replies, he doesn't believe it either, I just watched his stream where he brought up this thread. And why do so many people care what someone some of you never even heard of thinks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Annoy-o-tron View Post
    I don't know who it is. Why it should even matter if what he said was true?
    thank you, that is what I say, if you don't know who he is, why should you care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Banard View Post
    this is the first i heard of "mike preach"....and hopefully the last. ....pointless banter to get people to talk. I would say he is stupid but a 14 page forum post about his stream? Don Draper would be proud.
    had to have this quote too just for the giggles, hahaha! but I agree, you have no reason to care.
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  14. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Fallerup View Post
    thank you, that is what I say, if you don't know who he is, why should you care?.
    I understand that you are diehard fan of him, but who cares.
    Point of any discussion is to discuss statements, not a person that puts them.

  15. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by Annoy-o-tron View Post
    I understand that you are diehard fan of him, but who cares.
    Point of any discussion is to discuss statements, not a person that puts them.
    is that why half the posts are "who cares what Preach says" ?

  16. #356
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    is that why half the posts are "who cares what Preach says" ?
    If someone is obsessed with him then maybe. Are those statements in this exact video wrong? Why are they wrong?

  17. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by Fallerup View Post
    Preach never played SWTOR, Andy (Ghost) did. Preach hasn't touched the game as far as I know.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3kwCvesqdo (one of many) took ten seconds, you're wrong.

  18. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by Potentio View Post
    This game should be based on meritocracy and not luck.

    The gap between mythic players and "lesser" players has never been smaller. It should be just as large as the difference in difficulty.
    wtf are you talking about ? if we took average joe he would be most probably around between 850-860 itlv and never doin anything more then lfr how do you comapre them to 910 + itlv mythic raiders ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallerup View Post
    this. every last one of you wishes they could have his job, no point denying it. Jealous AF!.
    why would people wish to have his very risky job that is based comletly on old game that is less and less popular with each year ? - at least people like Bellular have clear goal with his "notice me sempai blizz and hire me" goal or Towlee who is a entertainer / twitch celebrity with multiple sponsors - preach on the other hand is basing everything on wow - look at his other non-wow videos - 5-6 k views which is nothing if you want to make $ from youtube , or maybe you mean the $ he is making n patreon - thats susper unstable source of income too - thats very very high risk/high reward job - not many people would risk like this their and their kids life.

  19. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by Fallerup View Post
    the best addition to the game in Legion is the Demon hunter class, the worst? Artifect weapons and AP! hands down the worst thing they have EVER done. it feels so lazy, so they design 36 unique weapon models (for all the specs), then they design some skins for said weapons and that pretty much covers that gear slot. they do't have to design new weapon models for drops or anything. it feels really really lazy and a cop out. And don't get me started on these F'ing tokens.. now they can just reward AP for everything, saves so much time on designing other rewards instead... I hate the artifact weapons and I hate AP! if they don't get rid of them the next expansion, I won't buy it. this was a big mistake. The only thing cool are some of the skins, but they could easily be weapon drops instead. the unique druid forms are the only thing about it that I actually like, I hate the rest, even if some look good.
    I'm currently unsubbed from the game, I'm thinking about resubbing now 7.2 comes out, which Preach by the way predicted would come in march, everyone else said june. But I don't know. I might just stick to SWTOR as I find it at least as fun as legion and it's F2P too. I might sub 1 month or so to get my class mount and flying and the warebear form for my druid, but thats it. but we can pretty much agree that the core game play of legion is horse rubbish. that would be: artifact weapons and AP.
    It's hands down the thing you hate the most. Don't think everyone has the same opinion. Me and a shitload of other players love it. Progressing and taking care of your weapon is breath of fresh air for us. Legion has been great thus far (for me).

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