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  1. #81
    Just looted the third leg for my main and color me surprised - after two of the worst legs for my Holy Pally (Sephuz and Uther's Guard) i got the Aggramar's shit. Its like the game want me to stop playing that character. Like, do you want Ithelrendi, Chain of Trayn, Velen's Trinket or Shoulders for your PvE Holy Pally? No, take these useless haste, healing blessings and speed buffs. Choose the best of them man, they will improve your play style and effectiveness so much!
    FY, Blizz, FY RNG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clerigon View Post
    They hit 110, do the 3 chest, run all the mythics with friends, all the lfr, and we do normal and hc emerald nightmare then normal nighthold, we do the same thing next reset, 99% of the time i get the second legendary before i can even use it.
    Oh, okay...cheers - that is more dedication than I can find. Also doesn't help that my guild kind of folded in WoD

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Its like the game want me to stop playing that character.
    FY, Blizz, FY RNG.
    This is literally the feeling I had when I looted my last Legendary. The added problem with bad Legendary items is you farm and farm with the good ones in mind. I've only ran roughly 800 M+ myself and killed 400 raid boss kills since Launch so I've been reasonably active and I have 5, whereas a guild member took a break for 6-7 weeks and has 2 more Legendaries than me, 3 BiS.
    Lets all go to the Blizz-store, Lets all go to the Blizz-store, Lets all go to the Blizz-store to buy ourselves some treats. Delicious things for geeks, the Pixels can't be beat. The Achievement points are just dandy, them sparkling mounts are quite handy. So Lets all go to the Blizz-store and buy ourselves a treat.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Morbownz View Post
    No and please don't put words in my mouth. I just accept there's a huge problem with design when player A's Legendaries give him 50k dps and player B's give him 200k dps. Regardless of yours or my current situation there will be many players that have enjoyed playing this game over the years and yet extremely frustrated by RnG in Legion.
    Blizzard conceded in a Q&A (pre 7.1.5) that some Legendary items were out of control and situational/niche Legendaries would have probably been a better approach. The Rogue cloak is the perfect example of strong yet situational Legendary items, there's moments where it shines and there's also moments where it's useless.



    That's already the case. If I already have the best 2/3 Legendaries for my spec I don't care about what comes next because I already know they'll be going straight into my bank.

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    Yep, they are just like extra credits at the end of a test, you get 2 credits and your buddy that never shows up to class gets 50 credits and it's luck of the draw! You should be happy because your 2 extra credits are free.
    I mean... you don't need any extra credit points to get an A in the class... I don't care what another student gets aslong as I can get by with a good grade. They can fail or pass it doesnt make a difference to me. I am there for myself not for anyone else. You are there to raid for your own progress you dont need to compare yourself to others who dont give a shit about you. If someone gives me 5 dollars but gives the next random stranger 20 why the fuck would I complain.. I was given 5 dollars that I didn't have before

  5. #85
    Wow Legendary gear is an Oxymoron. It is literally an critical chunk of your dps that comes in a random drop off a Beaver's butt. It used to be there was an epic quest or story that went along with a "Legendary" item now its the friggin New York Lottery.

    There you have it "Legendary" = "Lottery"

    Everytime you open a Weekly Chest, complete a daily Emmisary, Run a dungeon you are just like those people who buy 500 dollars in Lottery tickets hoping "One Day" you might get lucky and get back 100$. So no you shouldn't, you really shouldn't unless you like gambling more than you do actual playing.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeexbean View Post
    You are there to raid for your own progress you dont need to compare yourself to others who dont give a shit about you. If someone gives me 5 dollars but gives the next random stranger 20 why the fuck would I complain.. I was given 5 dollars that I didn't have before
    The only thing I can take from this is you don't raid in a competitive environment.
    Lets all go to the Blizz-store, Lets all go to the Blizz-store, Lets all go to the Blizz-store to buy ourselves some treats. Delicious things for geeks, the Pixels can't be beat. The Achievement points are just dandy, them sparkling mounts are quite handy. So Lets all go to the Blizz-store and buy ourselves a treat.

  7. #87
    Frankly, that thought crossed my mind after receiving 4th absolutely shit legendary on my main as well.
    Legendary system is undeniably the worst feature in Legion, and probably one of the most ill-considered ideas Blizz ever had.

    It was before Sephuz buff, so the was literally no way to proc it as healer on bossfight. Not that it's any good now for healing specs.
    Especially since my dps alt, that I use exclusively to zerg m+ with friends, got 3 good ones in a month; not the best one, but 2nd, 3rd, 4th of the top - more than enough to notice a significant dps boost and be glad to have it. How is that fair? I'd trade all of them for single good one for my main.

    But hey, that's my character, why would I reroll it into some anonymous toon?
    That's your rogue. You played it for several years, completed content with, grinded achievements and probably made a few friends over the years. Even this expansion you probably invested quite a lot of time to get your 54th trait. I don't think reroll at this point would make much sense, considering from now on, you can drop only the good ones, right?

    PS. Oh, and calling Prydaz a bad one is retarded.

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    Not this far into the expansion but early on yeah, I would say it was worth it to reroll to the same class in hopes of getting a better one.

  9. #89
    People need to stop pretending that they're world first raiders.
    Not being in the top-1 guild doesn't mean you don't want to play competitively.

    p.s. i realised that i was mistaken as i thought that the amount of time to the next legendary growth exponentially. Since it's not the case the answer is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1i3t0 View Post
    Not being in the top-1 guild doesn't mean you don't want to play competitively.

    p.s. i realised that i was mistaken as i thought that the amount of time to the next legendary growth exponentially. Since it's not the case the answer is obvious.
    Indeed. Delete all characters. It's the only way to be competitive in Nighthold LFR.

  11. #91
    5 'bad' legendaries reduces the chances of getting another bad legendary (as there is less drops to happen if you see what I'm saying) so why start again and risk the chance of getting ANOTHER 5 'bad' legendaries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1i3t0 View Post
    Not being in the top-1 guild doesn't mean you don't want to play competitively.

    p.s. i realised that i was mistaken as i thought that the amount of time to the next legendary growth exponentially. Since it's not the case the answer is obvious.
    It used to be the case that each legendary would take longer than the last one, the change was a fairly recent one. Before that change, yes it was actually a good strategy to make a new character after getting a few bad legendaries and it was done by some people, mostly in the more hardcore raiding communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saradonin View Post

    PS. Oh, and calling Prydaz a bad one is retarded.
    I agree, I use it in the higher M+ to save on damage and the stats are really good.

    I got my 5th legendary earlier (Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish) and I already have two alts and will not be re-rolling. I still want the chest piece, wrist, and belt.
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    It's probably worth it, especially if you have people that will power level you

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    I agree, I use it in the higher M+ to save on damage and the stats are really good.
    I would honestly love it on my shaman (although pants are probably a better defensive option) but not on the rogue. Rogue survivability is op as hell as it is.

  16. #96
    No way I'm rerolling a character I've played for 10 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1i3t0 View Post
    Hey guys,

    I am new to this legendary system but from what i gathered the consensus is that the more legendaries you have the longer to wait for the next one. I can somewhat relate to it since i have 5 and thats exactly what i experienced.
    Now i am quite a competitive person and although i started expansion late i "play to win" and reaching maximum available ilvl there is not much else to do but smooth your rotation to top logs. Now that would be rather hard without bis legs.
    Should i abandon my rogue of 10 years and create another one just to have a chance to get ok legends?

    Did anyone try deleting legendaries? Does it help?

    (my current ones are prydaz, valeera, symbiot, sephuz and cloak)
    When EN and TOV were current getting legendaries was much harder, you would get the first one fast and then you had diminishing returns the more you get. Now that it takes the same time to get all legendaries past the 3rd one it doesn't make sense to roll a fresh char and risk getting shit ones again.
    If you do absolutely all legendary worthy content every week it takes 2/3 weeks to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    Its people like you, in multiple threads who keep feeding the shit up players asses, the fact go beyond my 2 instances of personal experience. You can look on ANY forum, be it here, bnet forums, wowhead forums, it don't matter, its all the same this isn't an isolated issue, its widespread. You say players aren't forced, yet blizzard tunes content around them, so yes it is indeed forced.
    Play a new game then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    Just looted the third leg for my main and color me surprised - after two of the worst legs for my Holy Pally (Sephuz and Uther's Guard) i got the Aggramar's shit. Its like the game want me to stop playing that character. Like, do you want Ithelrendi, Chain of Trayn, Velen's Trinket or Shoulders for your PvE Holy Pally? No, take these useless haste, healing blessings and speed buffs. Choose the best of them man, they will improve your play style and effectiveness so much!
    FY, Blizz, FY RNG.
    I have Aggramar's Stride, Justice Gaze, And The Shield wrists


    So, basically...

    I have a third shield, a Stun Damage Boost, And a Legendary that unprunes my Speed Of Light....



    YAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Nope it was not, just a few months ago a normal Mythic raider would have had BiS 795 ring and after 3 months of farming HFC, BiS Mythic gear basically. Everyone else would have been close around performance-wise, as WF was just 6 ilvls and no TF. Was fun and fair, unlike nowadays.

    Also what's this dumb crap with "people need to pretend they're world first raiders". What if you're world 50? I am. My guild is on the 3rd page of wowprogress in a very small elite minority of players with content completion. Should we do what? Pretend the grind and the RNG legendaries don't exist and suddenly after 10 year play casually? Ignore insane character improvements like BiS legendaries and do with Prydaz? (no we didn't use that on progression lol, another dumb myth, so many DPS checks, only an idiot thinks that if you have BiS throughput legendary you will go Prydaz. There are some niches where it's useful, but that's it.).

    There are guilds and players between top 10 and stuck at 3/10M. Get that into your minds. There is competition at ALL levels of raiding, including those stuck poor 3/10M souls, yes, although obviously reduced. Competition means you need best tools, which Mythic raiders were able to get in the past THROUGH RAIDING ALONE.

    That MUST return.
    BUT...BUT....MAH CASUALITAAAHHHH!!!! /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Nope it was not, just a few months ago a normal Mythic raider would have had BiS 795 ring and after 3 months of farming HFC, BiS Mythic gear basically. Everyone else would have been close around performance-wise, as WF was just 6 ilvls and no TF. Was fun and fair, unlike nowadays.

    Also what's this dumb crap with "people need to pretend they're world first raiders". What if you're world 50? I am. My guild is on the 3rd page of wowprogress in a very small elite minority of players with content completion. Should we do what? Pretend the grind and the RNG legendaries don't exist and suddenly after 10 year play casually? Ignore insane character improvements like BiS legendaries and do with Prydaz? (no we didn't use that on progression lol, another dumb myth, so many DPS checks, only an idiot thinks that if you have BiS throughput legendary you will go Prydaz. There are some niches where it's useful, but that's it.).

    There are guilds and players between top 10 and stuck at 3/10M. Get that into your minds. There is competition at ALL levels of raiding, including those stuck poor 3/10M souls, yes, although obviously reduced. Competition means you need best tools, which Mythic raiders were able to get in the past THROUGH RAIDING ALONE.

    That MUST return.
    BUT...BUT....MAH CASUALITAAAHHHH!!!! /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Nope it was not, just a few months ago a normal Mythic raider would have had BiS 795 ring and after 3 months of farming HFC, BiS Mythic gear basically. Everyone else would have been close around performance-wise, as WF was just 6 ilvls and no TF. Was fun and fair, unlike nowadays.

    Also what's this dumb crap with "people need to pretend they're world first raiders". What if you're world 50? I am. My guild is on the 3rd page of wowprogress in a very small elite minority of players with content completion. Should we do what? Pretend the grind and the RNG legendaries don't exist and suddenly after 10 year play casually? Ignore insane character improvements like BiS legendaries and do with Prydaz? (no we didn't use that on progression lol, another dumb myth, so many DPS checks, only an idiot thinks that if you have BiS throughput legendary you will go Prydaz. There are some niches where it's useful, but that's it.).

    There are guilds and players between top 10 and stuck at 3/10M. Get that into your minds. There is competition at ALL levels of raiding, including those stuck poor 3/10M souls, yes, although obviously reduced. Competition means you need best tools, which Mythic raiders were able to get in the past THROUGH RAIDING ALONE.

    That MUST return.
    BUT...BUT....MAH CASUALITAAAHHHH!!!! /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Nope it was not, just a few months ago a normal Mythic raider would have had BiS 795 ring and after 3 months of farming HFC, BiS Mythic gear basically. Everyone else would have been close around performance-wise, as WF was just 6 ilvls and no TF. Was fun and fair, unlike nowadays.

    Also what's this dumb crap with "people need to pretend they're world first raiders". What if you're world 50? I am. My guild is on the 3rd page of wowprogress in a very small elite minority of players with content completion. Should we do what? Pretend the grind and the RNG legendaries don't exist and suddenly after 10 year play casually? Ignore insane character improvements like BiS legendaries and do with Prydaz? (no we didn't use that on progression lol, another dumb myth, so many DPS checks, only an idiot thinks that if you have BiS throughput legendary you will go Prydaz. There are some niches where it's useful, but that's it.).

    There are guilds and players between top 10 and stuck at 3/10M. Get that into your minds. There is competition at ALL levels of raiding, including those stuck poor 3/10M souls, yes, although obviously reduced. Competition means you need best tools, which Mythic raiders were able to get in the past THROUGH RAIDING ALONE.

    That MUST return.
    BUT...BUT....MAH CASUALITAAAHHHH!!!! /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Nope it was not, just a few months ago a normal Mythic raider would have had BiS 795 ring and after 3 months of farming HFC, BiS Mythic gear basically. Everyone else would have been close around performance-wise, as WF was just 6 ilvls and no TF. Was fun and fair, unlike nowadays.

    Also what's this dumb crap with "people need to pretend they're world first raiders". What if you're world 50? I am. My guild is on the 3rd page of wowprogress in a very small elite minority of players with content completion. Should we do what? Pretend the grind and the RNG legendaries don't exist and suddenly after 10 year play casually? Ignore insane character improvements like BiS legendaries and do with Prydaz? (no we didn't use that on progression lol, another dumb myth, so many DPS checks, only an idiot thinks that if you have BiS throughput legendary you will go Prydaz. There are some niches where it's useful, but that's it.).

    There are guilds and players between top 10 and stuck at 3/10M. Get that into your minds. There is competition at ALL levels of raiding, including those stuck poor 3/10M souls, yes, although obviously reduced. Competition means you need best tools, which Mythic raiders were able to get in the past THROUGH RAIDING ALONE.

    That MUST return.
    BUT...BUT....MAH CASUALITAAAHHHH!!!! /s

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