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    Question MADD director says group should rethink taxi advice after 'drunk can consent' case


    A Nova Scotia judge's controversial decision to acquit a taxi driver of sexual assaulting an intoxicated passenger has prompted a MADD director to urge her organization to rethink its long-standing advice to cab home after a night out.

    "In light of the situation that recently occurred in Halifax, I would certainly feel, as the mom of two daughters, that [calling a taxi] is not the first choice I'd like them to make," Anissa Aldridge, the Atlantic director for Mothers Against Drunk Driving, told CBC News on Thursday.

    She said turning the focus away from taxis is a big step and she will raise it at MADD Canada's general meeting at the end of April in Toronto.

    MADD Canada CEO Andrew Murie said in an email Friday the national organization has not changed its policy concerning the use of taxis.

    He called Aldridge's comment "just a local reaction, more from the perspective of a mother than any policy change from the national organization."
    End of #TAXI campaign

    In May 2015, a police officer found a 26-year-old woman unconscious and partially clothed in the back of taxi. Al-Rawi had her urine-soaked underwear in his hands and test results later found her DNA on his upper lip.

    The woman testified during a two-day trial she recalled little from that night. Earlier this month, Judge Gregory Lenehan ruled the Crown failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the woman had not consented. He also stated "clearly, a drunk can consent."

    For the last 14 years, Mothers Against Drunk Driving ran a #TAXI ad campaign urging people to dial pound T-A-X-I (#8294) to get home safely, but ended it two months ago after it had run its course. The decision was not connected to the court case.

    MADD Atlantic doesn't plan to reuse the pro-taxi campaign, Aldridge said.
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    Judge Greg Lenehan is seen here in 2009 when he was Crown attorney. (CBC)

    "We've relied on Casino Taxi, Yellow Cabs, Satellite Taxi — all of those companies — to get us home safely in the past. I think that most certainly will continue, but we also have to explore different options," Aldridge said.

    "We can't now state that all taxi drivers might be a concern … but the option of going two, three or four people in a taxi if you're a young woman and feeling unsafe, might be a great option."

    She urged people to plan ahead for a safe way home, either by booking a hotel, staying at a friend's house, appointing a designated driver, or walking if it's possible.
    'It's just absurd'

    Dave Buffett, president of the Halifax Taxi Drivers Owners Association, called Aldridge's comments "incredibly irresponsible."

    "I just think it's an overreaction. I think this lady didn't give this a lot of thought, maybe she was on the spot or something. It's just absurd."

    He said drivers charged with sexually assaulting passengers have all lost their taxi licences and are "out of the equation." The chances of being molested in a cab "are very low" when compared to the number of sexual assaults reported annually to Halifax police, Buffett said.

    But he recommends passengers greet cab drivers using their roof light number, to indicate knowledge of the industry and its reporting procedures.

    'Serious concern' about ruling

    CBC's Mainstreet interviewed Susan MacAskill, another member of MADD in Atlantic Canada, the day after the verdict. She said it would likely discourage people from calling a taxi.

    "As an organization, for decades we've encouraged people to arrange for safe and sober alternate transportation home if they're going to be consuming alcohol," she said on March 3.

    "We have a serious concern about the impact of this ruling."
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613

    What hasn't been boycotted yet?

    And no. Boycotting this is basically boycotting muslims because such a small % does something wrong.

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    Let's see... your options are call a cab or drive home so drunk that you can't consent to sex. The odds of you getting raped by a cabbie are nearly zero. The odds of you dying and/or killing someone else while driving that drunk are through the roof. The question is moronic.

    BTW, this kind of knee jerk "everyone's out to get me" response to every attack you read about online is a horribly dangerous one.
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    Maybe you could just sit at home and get drunk and throw the whole question of taxi or drive drunk out the window. I never got the enjoyment of going out somewhere alone to get drunk....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSRilk View Post
    Let's see... you're your options are call a cab or drive home so drunk that you can't consent to sex. The odds of you getting raped by a cabbie are nearly zero. The odds of you dying and/or killing someone else while driving that drunk are through the roof. The question is moronic.

    BTW, this kind of knee jerk "everyone's out to get me" response to every attack you read about online is a horribly dangerous one.
    Or you could just not drink and drive yourself home safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Or you could just not drink and drive yourself home safely.
    Totally agree that's the smarter move. I'm just saying that driving home drunk because you're afraid of cab rape is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613
    Just arm yourself. Oh wait...Canadia...never mind then. I dunno what you do up there to stop people from raping or killing you. Whatever it is you do, do that I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    This whole " I sniffed a shot of yager so I can't consent" shit needs to end. If you're passed out, or so drunk you're incoherent, that's one thing. Having a few drinks and going home with someone isn't rape. We need to stand up against those who continually want to move the goal post and perpetuate the myth of a rape culture.
    You realize that in this case, the cab driver was having sex with her while she was unconscious.

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    It's moronic that MADD even went thru this, unless there is some streak of drunk women getting raped in taxis all over the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini Soul View Post
    It's moronic that MADD even went thru this, unless there is some streak of drunk women getting raped in taxis all over the country.
    What year are you living in? I wanna go there.

    Making a humongous deal out of nothing is like totes the thing to do ....
    People working 2 jobs in the US (at least one part-time) - 7.8 Million (Roughly 4.9% of the workforce)

    People working 2 full-time jobs in the US - 360,000 (0.2% of the workforce)

    Average time worked weekly by the US Workforce - 34.5 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Just arm yourself. Oh wait...Canadia...never mind then. I dunno what you do up there to stop people from raping or killing you. Whatever it is you do, do that I guess.
    Our rate of mass shootings and shootings in general is much lower thanks to gun regulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613
    Yeah people should totally drink and drive instead of risk having consensual sex with their cab driver, drinking and driving is way less risky.

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    Faced with this quandary, I would certainly choose hanging on to my consciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613
    It's not a boycott, it's a recommendation to avoid using those services when you're alone. If you however do decide to use those services just make sure you're going with people you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Do you agree with this? Would you also boycott taxis and ubers as well?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...sent-1.4028613
    Meanwhile, around the world, millions of people got home safely using a taxi or Uber driver.

    So yes. Ban the lot of them! Drive yourself home, drunkies!
    If you are particularly bold, you could use a Shiny Ditto. Do keep in mind though, this will infuriate your opponents due to Ditto's beauty. Please do not use Shiny Ditto. You have been warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Yeah people should totally drink and drive instead of risk having consensual sex with their cab driver, drinking and driving is way less risky.

    MADD should stay focused on drunk driving. But I don't see an issue here as long as they're not flat out discouraging cab use.

    The odds of your cabbie are lower than you fucking people over by driving drunk.

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    MADD director is grasping at straws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Our rate of mass shootings and shootings in general is much lower thanks to gun regulation.
    What does that have to do with anything? If someone breaks down your door, in an effort to murder you, there is one way, and one way only, were every human, regardless of physical prowess, can successfully repel that attack: guns.

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    People should be able to trust cab drivers and ubers. But the unfortunate reality is there's always a chance that they're a weirdo.

    Best advice is to be cautious whenever possible. If you can get a ride from someone you know and trust then do that. If you have to take a cab or an uber then do so in groups if you can.

    But if you have to go alone and you pass out and get raped, well the blame is 100% on the rapist. If you are just really drunk and you take the cab/uber driver into your home to have sex with them, well that's still your conscious decision. Probably a bad career move for the driver, but it's not rape.

    And that's about all there is to it.

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