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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    well I can only hope they get nothing done on this front. Because I know for a fact these assholes probably aren't going after European or hell even Asian illegals. Just the brown people that mow yards.
    You have a source or quote that says they only told them to hold brown people extra? Otherwise I would just assume you are trying to make something racist out of nowhere. It isn't their fault the majority of illegals happen to be from Mexico.

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    HOW DARE HE UPHOLD THE LAW AND DEPORT ILLEGAL CRIMINALS!

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeh View Post
    LOL. Wow, just wow.
    It hurts Arizonians when WE are footing the bill for much of their emergency medical care, and other benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    It hurts Arizonians when WE are footing the bill for much of their emergency medical care, and other benefits.
    Then you have a welfare problem, not an immigration problem.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Why not? Why should we restrict actions which cause no actual harm? Isn't that how liberals justify banning all sorts of things?
    Just a quick fyi: you saying it causes no harm doesn't mean it causes no harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's not besides the point. The xenophobia is growing, and the trend is clear... a fear of brown-skinned people.

    Why do you and Trump hate freedom so much? Let illegals work, let the free market and capitalism reign supreme.
    The Republicans have no plans of ever actually doing anything about illegal immigration, the practical objective of all the xenophobic rhetoric is mostly to make sure that Latinos know their place, keep their heads down, and don't agitate for more rights or better protections. By making it seem like we're being overly generous just letting them stay, we don't have to be apologetic about treating them like dirt.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeh View Post
    Just a quick fyi: you saying it causes no harm doesn't mean it causes no harm.
    What harm is caused by crossing a line in the dirt in Arizona, or staying past your visa expiration, so that you can work?

  8. #28
    Most of this article is old.

    He did the equivalent of the teacher writing your name on the board? The pressure is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Why not? Why should we restrict actions which cause no actual harm? Isn't that how liberals justify banning all sorts of things?
    You are just so right. No harm caused, at all, by "brown-skinned" people.

    Two Maryland high school students charged with raping 14-year-old classmate on campus

    Sanchez, a Guatemala native, arrived in the country about seven months ago and is the subject of a pending “alien removal” case, the Post reported. Montano, meanwhile, arrived in the U.S. roughly eight months ago, but U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement declined to comment on his status since he is underage, according to WTOP.
    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...130234354.html

    A Burke County man was sentenced to at least 20 years in prison on Wednesday after a jury found him guilty of raping a 13-year-old girl.

    The Superior Court jury deliberated for just 90 minutes before finding Ricardo Solis Garcia, 29, of Morganton guilty of statutory rape, the Burke County District Attorney’s Office said.
    Ricardo Garcia Burke County District Attorney’s Office

    Federal immigration authorities also have a detainer on Garcia, and he will be deported at the end of his prison sentence, prosecuotrs said.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Sukk View Post
    You have a source or quote that says they only told them to hold brown people extra? Otherwise I would just assume you are trying to make something racist out of nowhere. It isn't their fault the majority of illegals happen to be from Mexico.
    No it's not but they are far from the only group that comes here and stays illegally. is there a racism component to this? I sure think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    You are just so right. No harm caused, at all, by "brown-skinned" people.

    Two Maryland high school students charged with raping 14-year-old classmate on campus
    You are mixing up two separate actions. The act of raping someone was the harmful action. Otherwise, you are saying people should not be able to own a firearm, or drink alcohol... because drunk and armed people hurt others.

    Is that what you are saying?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Then you have a welfare problem, not an immigration problem.
    It's both.

    Obviously we aren't going to turn people away when they need emergency medical care (although to be honest illegals use emergency rooms for everything knowing they won't have to pay) and illegal's with U.S. born kids are eligible for all kinds of benefits, benefits that aren't just used for the kids.

    Now if you want to cut all and I mean ALL benefits to illegals and put their American born children into foster care when their parents are found to be committing welfare fraud that would be one thing (and a shitty thing to do), but we don't and Arizona Tax payers deserve accountability from the federal government in that they are doing their job enforcing immigration laws.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    The actionable plan will be to reduce - or eliminate - their Federal funding.
    Which he can't do. Good old conservative SCOTUS judges have already made such actions illegal. Unless of course he reduces funding for areas related to the issue in question, meaning that he can reduce funding for their law enforcement efforts.

    So tell me do you think Trump should punish them by reducing funding for local law enforcement, which would mean less criminals arrested some of whom would end up being illegal immigrants, and thus making them even bigger sanctuary cities?
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    It's both.

    Obviously we aren't going to turn people away when they need emergency medical care (although to be honest illegals use emergency rooms for everything knowing they won't have to pay) and illegal's with U.S. born kids are eligible for all kinds of benefits, benefits that aren't just used for the kids.

    Now if you want to cut all and I mean ALL benefits to illegals and put their American born children into foster care when their parents are found to be committing welfare fraud that would be one thing (and a shitty thing to do), but we don't and Arizona Tax payers deserve accountability from the federal government in that they are doing their job enforcing immigration laws.
    I want to cut all welfare benefits. It makes it much more simple, we get to keep more of our money, and people are more free.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Which he can't do. Good old conservative SCOTUS judges have already made such actions illegal. Unless of course he reduces funding for areas related to the issue in question, meaning that he can reduce funding for their law enforcement efforts.

    So tell me do you think Trump should punish them by reducing funding for local law enforcement, which would mean less criminals arrested some of whom would end up being illegal immigrants, and thus making them even bigger sanctuary cities?
    But...once we've got a big wall they can't even get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    You are just so right. No harm caused, at all, by "brown-skinned" people.

    Two Maryland high school students charged with raping 14-year-old classmate on campus
    So you're now basing your opinion of all immigrants on these two teens? The hate is strong in you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I want to cut all welfare benefits. It makes it much more simple, we get to keep more of our money, and people are more free.
    I think there needs to be more accountability and more focus on getting people on their feet as opposed to building dependency, but that's a different conversation all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    HOW DARE HE UPHOLD THE LAW AND DEPORT ILLEGAL CRIMINALS!
    They aren't deporting anyone or doing anything about it.

    Trump is essentially going "hey, look at these cities! something happened here!" and expecting... something... to come of it.


    Basically he's trying to foot the responsibility onto someone else.

    Of course, seeing as these states really don't care, I doubt anything will really come of it.

    Another useless token gesture by Trump to abstain him from having to actually do anything, all the while blaming others for things not happening.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    So you're now basing your opinion of all immigrants on these two teens? The hate is strong in you.
    Um - no, not at all. Machismo said that "brown-people" cause no harm at all. I just pointed out 2 recent cases where "brown-people" most assuredly caused harm.

    I won't even bring up Kate Steinle or the other 1000's of Americans that have been killed by illegal "brown-people" that "cause no harm".

    BTW - that is one thing that is going to be great about VOICE. It will be collecting actual numbers on how many illegals are committing the crimes, something that the alt-left has been suppressing for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Um - no, not at all. Machismo said that "brown-people" cause no harm at all. I just pointed out 2 recent cases where "brown-people" most assuredly caused harm.

    I won't even bring up Kate Steinle or the other 1000's of Americans that have been killed by illegal "brown-people" that "cause no harm".
    No, I said the act of being an illegal immigrant doesn't cause any harm. You are mixing up two completely separate actions. Nice try, but you are being disingenuous.

    Otherwise, we should immediately ban everyone from owning a firearm, or drinking alcohol. Your logic is flawed.

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