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    Too bad 9 out of 10 cases like this have turned out to be hoaxes. Securing the borders isn't racist, anyone who thinks it's racist needs to stop talking and go remove the locks from their doors. Illegal Immigration and Legal Immigration are two completely different things, but liberal politicians and the MSM don't want you to think that. They won't use the term illegal because it blurs the line between reality and the straight up lies they have to tell to justify illegal immigration.

    Illegal immigration, contrary to what liberals claim, helps and benefits absolutely no one. Sure some of them pay taxes, like that idiot in Arizona who tried to show how great she was on Facebook. But the truth is their cost on the economy far exceeds anything they pay in taxes. They pay millions but cost tens of billions in food, housing, education, healthcare and a hundred other programs.

    And the people hurt the most by illegal immigration are African Americans. They are statistically the largest domestic group of low skilled and low paid workers in the country, and they are the ones most likely to lose a job to someone who either enters and works illegally or enters and is given a free pass to get a job despite being in the country illegally like Obama did near the end of his term with his de facto amnesty.

    As for the refugees, we shouldn't be taking them in from any country. There is absolutely no way to vet these people because there is no way to prove who they are. Basic documentation like birth records and IDs don't exist in their countries. Any liberal vomit rag trying to claim otherwise is lying. Just look at what is happening in Europe on an almost daily basis now. That daughter of EU official that got raped and murdered in Germany, they were going to let the killer off on a lesser sentence because he claimed he was 17. Turns out he was 22, and even that is not 100% certain and they are only basing it on the fact that he claimed to be 17 when he originally showed up in Germany demanding asylum in 2013.

    And that's what they ALL do. Military age men, not families, not women and children, make up over 90% of the "refugees", and the vast majority of them all claim to be minors. That way they are put into school with underage girls for them to rape and and expected to have a job. Hell, look at the two scumbags that rapped that girl in Maryland. They're not even refugees, but there is no justification for a 17 year old and a 19 year old to be put in the same class as 14 year old girls. But it happens because the liberals demand it. They had no right to even be at that school, there families should have been deported had the law actually been enforced. Barack Obama was directly responsible for that 14 year old girl getting rapped in her school bathroom.

    Immigrants want to come to the US, that's great, just make them do it legally. For all the talk about how the US should be more like countries like Canada, Canada will kick your ass out a whole hell of alot quicker than the US will. If you don't have a company sponsoring you and providing you a job, Canada will deport your ass. There's not 10+ million illegals living in Canada because Canada doesn't tolerate it. Neither does Mexico. Mexico will send you to prison for a couple of years then deport you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    "NO U" Nice argument.

    Are you actually arguing that a phobia isn't an irrational fear?
    You're aware that xenophobia isn't a phobia, just like homophobia or islamophobia aren't actual phobias?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsc View Post
    THIS
    People who insist on labeling everyone and everything Xenophobic, Misogynistic, Racist, Islamaphobic, and all the rest of the "protected class" related, snowflake coddling bullcrap are the problem.


    You aren't anymore special or important than anyone else, except when your ilk make laws that make such.

    Its all bullshit.
    Calm down, your special snowflake is showing.

    See and this is what I love about conservatives. You can see how much they act like a snowflake while calling other people snowflakes. It's like a fucking blizzard in this comment alone.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    You're aware it's still part of the meaning of the word, right? It's an irrational hatred.
    So what? That doesn't mean they're actual phobias. Actual phobias can be diagnosed by a psychiatrist, no psychiatrist is going to diagnose you with xenophobia as it's a political term, not a medically recognized one. It doesn't require it to be an irrational hatred either.

    xenophobia
    NOUN

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    Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
    ‘the resurgence of racism and xenophobia’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicer299 View Post
    Too bad 9 out of 10 cases like this have turned out to be hoaxes. Securing the borders isn't racist, anyone who thinks it's racist needs to stop talking and go remove the locks from their doors. Illegal Immigration and Legal Immigration are two completely different things, but liberal politicians and the MSM don't want you to think that. They won't use the term illegal because it blurs the line between reality and the straight up lies they have to tell to justify illegal immigration.

    Illegal immigration, contrary to what liberals claim, helps and benefits absolutely no one. Sure some of them pay taxes, like that idiot in Arizona who tried to show how great she was on Facebook. But the truth is their cost on the economy far exceeds anything they pay in taxes. They pay millions but cost tens of billions in food, housing, education, healthcare and a hundred other programs.

    And the people hurt the most by illegal immigration are African Americans. They are statistically the largest domestic group of low skilled and low paid workers in the country, and they are the ones most likely to lose a job to someone who either enters and works illegally or enters and is given a free pass to get a job despite being in the country illegally like Obama did near the end of his term with his de facto amnesty.

    As for the refugees, we shouldn't be taking them in from any country. There is absolutely no way to vet these people because there is no way to prove who they are. Basic documentation like birth records and IDs don't exist in their countries. Any liberal vomit rag trying to claim otherwise is lying. Just look at what is happening in Europe on an almost daily basis now. That daughter of EU official that got raped and murdered in Germany, they were going to let the killer off on a lesser sentence because he claimed he was 17. Turns out he was 22, and even that is not 100% certain and they are only basing it on the fact that he claimed to be 17 when he originally showed up in Germany demanding asylum in 2013.

    And that's what they ALL do. Military age men, not families, not women and children, make up over 90% of the "refugees", and the vast majority of them all claim to be minors. That way they are put into school with underage girls for them to rape and and expected to have a job. Hell, look at the two scumbags that rapped that girl in Maryland. They're not even refugees, but there is no justification for a 17 year old and a 19 year old to be put in the same class as 14 year old girls. But it happens because the liberals demand it. They had no right to even be at that school, there families should have been deported had the law actually been enforced. Barack Obama was directly responsible for that 14 year old girl getting rapped in her school bathroom.

    Immigrants want to come to the US, that's great, just make them do it legally. For all the talk about how the US should be more like countries like Canada, Canada will kick your ass out a whole hell of alot quicker than the US will. If you don't have a company sponsoring you and providing you a job, Canada will deport your ass. There's not 10+ million illegals living in Canada because Canada doesn't tolerate it. Neither does Mexico. Mexico will send you to prison for a couple of years then deport you.
    Actual, hard evidence to back this up, or are you going to continue to spout Trump talking points without any actual statistics?

    Enough with the "feeling" politics. America didn't feel great before Trump and it certainly doesn't feel great post Trump either.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicer299 View Post
    Too bad 9 out of 10 cases like this have turned out to be hoaxes. Securing the borders isn't racist, anyone who thinks it's racist needs to stop talking and go remove the locks from their doors. Illegal Immigration and Legal Immigration are two completely different things, but liberal politicians and the MSM don't want you to think that. They won't use the term illegal because it blurs the line between reality and the straight up lies they have to tell to justify illegal immigration.

    Illegal immigration, contrary to what liberals claim, helps and benefits absolutely no one. Sure some of them pay taxes, like that idiot in Arizona who tried to show how great she was on Facebook. But the truth is their cost on the economy far exceeds anything they pay in taxes. They pay millions but cost tens of billions in food, housing, education, healthcare and a hundred other programs.

    And the people hurt the most by illegal immigration are African Americans. They are statistically the largest domestic group of low skilled and low paid workers in the country, and they are the ones most likely to lose a job to someone who either enters and works illegally or enters and is given a free pass to get a job despite being in the country illegally like Obama did near the end of his term with his de facto amnesty.

    As for the refugees, we shouldn't be taking them in from any country. There is absolutely no way to vet these people because there is no way to prove who they are. Basic documentation like birth records and IDs don't exist in their countries. Any liberal vomit rag trying to claim otherwise is lying. Just look at what is happening in Europe on an almost daily basis now. That daughter of EU official that got raped and murdered in Germany, they were going to let the killer off on a lesser sentence because he claimed he was 17. Turns out he was 22, and even that is not 100% certain and they are only basing it on the fact that he claimed to be 17 when he originally showed up in Germany demanding asylum in 2013.

    And that's what they ALL do. Military age men, not families, not women and children, make up over 90% of the "refugees", and the vast majority of them all claim to be minors. That way they are put into school with underage girls for them to rape and and expected to have a job. Hell, look at the two scumbags that rapped that girl in Maryland. They're not even refugees, but there is no justification for a 17 year old and a 19 year old to be put in the same class as 14 year old girls. But it happens because the liberals demand it. They had no right to even be at that school, there families should have been deported had the law actually been enforced. Barack Obama was directly responsible for that 14 year old girl getting rapped in her school bathroom.

    Immigrants want to come to the US, that's great, just make them do it legally. For all the talk about how the US should be more like countries like Canada, Canada will kick your ass out a whole hell of alot quicker than the US will. If you don't have a company sponsoring you and providing you a job, Canada will deport your ass. There's not 10+ million illegals living in Canada because Canada doesn't tolerate it. Neither does Mexico. Mexico will send you to prison for a couple of years then deport you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicer299 View Post
    Too bad 9 out of 10 cases like this have turned out to be hoaxes. Securing the borders isn't racist, anyone who thinks it's racist needs to stop talking and go remove the locks from their doors. Illegal Immigration and Legal Immigration are two completely different things, but liberal politicians and the MSM don't want you to think that. They won't use the term illegal because it blurs the line between reality and the straight up lies they have to tell to justify illegal immigration.

    Illegal immigration, contrary to what liberals claim, helps and benefits absolutely no one. Sure some of them pay taxes, like that idiot in Arizona who tried to show how great she was on Facebook. But the truth is their cost on the economy far exceeds anything they pay in taxes. They pay millions but cost tens of billions in food, housing, education, healthcare and a hundred other programs.

    And the people hurt the most by illegal immigration are African Americans. They are statistically the largest domestic group of low skilled and low paid workers in the country, and they are the ones most likely to lose a job to someone who either enters and works illegally or enters and is given a free pass to get a job despite being in the country illegally like Obama did near the end of his term with his de facto amnesty.

    As for the refugees, we shouldn't be taking them in from any country. There is absolutely no way to vet these people because there is no way to prove who they are. Basic documentation like birth records and IDs don't exist in their countries. Any liberal vomit rag trying to claim otherwise is lying. Just look at what is happening in Europe on an almost daily basis now. That daughter of EU official that got raped and murdered in Germany, they were going to let the killer off on a lesser sentence because he claimed he was 17. Turns out he was 22, and even that is not 100% certain and they are only basing it on the fact that he claimed to be 17 when he originally showed up in Germany demanding asylum in 2013.

    And that's what they ALL do. Military age men, not families, not women and children, make up over 90% of the "refugees", and the vast majority of them all claim to be minors. That way they are put into school with underage girls for them to rape and and expected to have a job. Hell, look at the two scumbags that rapped that girl in Maryland. They're not even refugees, but there is no justification for a 17 year old and a 19 year old to be put in the same class as 14 year old girls. But it happens because the liberals demand it. They had no right to even be at that school, there families should have been deported had the law actually been enforced. Barack Obama was directly responsible for that 14 year old girl getting rapped in her school bathroom.

    Immigrants want to come to the US, that's great, just make them do it legally. For all the talk about how the US should be more like countries like Canada, Canada will kick your ass out a whole hell of alot quicker than the US will. If you don't have a company sponsoring you and providing you a job, Canada will deport your ass. There's not 10+ million illegals living in Canada because Canada doesn't tolerate it. Neither does Mexico. Mexico will send you to prison for a couple of years then deport you.
    Inb4 no one refutes what you said and just ignores you or insults you.

    Edit: too late

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    I'm talking about the irrational part obviously. But thanks for all the irrelevant information.
    There is nothing that requires it to be irrational. Xenophobia is clearly defined already:

    xenophobia
    NOUN

    mass noun
    Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
    ‘the resurgence of racism and xenophobia’



    Definition of xenophobia
    : fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign

    Xenophobia is the fear and distrust of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange.[1][2] Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup, including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities, aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed purity.[3] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal, stereotyped and exotic quality".[3]

    xe·no·pho·bi·a (zē′nə-fō′bēə, zĕn′ə-)
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    Fear, hatred, or mistrust of that which is foreign, especially strangers or people from different countries or cultures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Inb4 no one refutes what you said and just ignores you or insults you
    People have better things to do than to waste their time to address inane ramblings ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    You're aware it's still part of the meaning of the word, right? It's an irrational hatred.
    No it isn't... irrational hatred has nothing to do with it. I don't believe homosexual acts are moral, but that doesn't mean I hate homosexuals. Of course, other people will tell me otherwise; that it is physically impossible for me to be 'anti-LGBT' without also hating gays.

    The terms are radically blown out of proportion, and at this point calling somebody a 'homophobe', with the definition being somebody who hates homosexuals, is 99% of the time an outright lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    Calm down, your special snowflake is showing.

    See and this is what I love about conservatives. You can see how much they act like a snowflake while calling other people snowflakes. It's like a fucking blizzard in this comment alone.
    How are they acting like a snowflake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    No it isn't... irrational hatred has nothing to do with it. I don't believe homosexual acts are moral, but that doesn't mean I hate homosexuals. Of course, other people will tell me otherwise; that it is physically impossible for me to be 'anti-LGBT' without also hating gays.

    The terms are radically blown out of proportion, and at this point calling somebody a 'homophobe', with the definition being somebody who hates homosexuals, is 99% of the time an outright lie.
    Antipathy of so-called homosexual acts is homophobia, just so you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    Actual, hard evidence to back this up, or are you going to continue to spout Trump talking points without any actual statistics?

    Enough with the "feeling" politics. America didn't feel great before Trump and it certainly doesn't feel great post Trump either.
    Got any statistics to back that up? I beg to differ. America feels better now that we have a president that actually likes America instead of one that just wants to apologize to everyone for America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    Got any statistics to back that up? I beg to differ. America feels better now that we have a president that actually likes America instead of one that just wants to apologize to everyone for America.
    Always going on and on about your feelings, you precious little snowflake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Fun View Post
    Antipathy of so-called homosexual acts is homophobia, just so you know.
    The line you bolded referred to homosexual acts, not homosexuals. I can dislike lying while still not hating a liar. To equate 'antipathy' of an act to 'antipathy' of a person or people is apples and oranges. Furthermore, the definition of antipathy (that being: "a deep-seated feeling of dislike; aversion.") can be felt by many, if not most, heterosexual people concerning homosexual acts. Many homosexuals also admit such feelings towards sexual actions from the opposite sex.

    Basically, your post is nonsense and has nothing to do with anything I said nor does it relate to a hatred of homosexuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicari View Post
    Always going on and on about your feelings, you precious little snowflake.
    Sue me. We have a president that I don't dislike in the white house. Trump isn't mah main man, but at least he isn't oh-bummer. Yes, I am human too. I can express my feelings without permanently latching them onto my logic and way of thinking like most liberals do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    xen·o·pho·bi·a
    ˌzenəˈfōbēə,ˌzēnəˈfōbēə/
    noun
    intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.

    That's google's definition. What makes yours right and that one wrong?

    Regardless, saying it's okay to be xenophobic is irrational and stupid.
    I don't think anyone is saying it is ok. It's just that calling people xenophobic for being at all patriotic is stupid.

    Very few people are actually xenophobic to the point where they hate or despise somebody just because they originate from a country that isn't America.
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    It's real fun to see people argue over definitions.
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    So this just happened over the last few days.

    http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/polic..._/429941972?=c

    The op may be legit but there are definitely hoaxes out there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicari View Post
    It's real fun to see people argue over definitions.
    Well yes, when you call X a Y, but then insist that the definition of Y is X, even though it is actually Y, people will tend to point that out. Calling somebody xenophobic without explaining why they are xenophobic, and then just referencing the definition while merely insisting that they are xenophobic when the definition doesn't match them at all, tends to cause people to call that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    Well considering the guy I quoted said exactly that...
    And it seems he has a different definition than you and I. So I guess your entire conversation really was just insisting that your definition is the only definition while he did the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    Well yes, when you call X a Y, but then insist that the definition of Y is X, even though it is actually Y, people will tend to point that out. Calling somebody xenophobic without explaining why they are xenophobic, and then just referencing the definition while merely insisting that they are xenophobic when the definition doesn't match them at all, tends to cause people to call that out.
    And yet the argument over the definition took over the last page entirely and threatens to do so again with this one. Continue bickering over it if you all must though...I would not add further derailment by setting another train down ruined tracks.

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    And it seems he has a different definition than you and I. So I guess your entire conversation really was just insisting that your definition is the only definition while he did the same?
    That's what everyone, including yourself, has been doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    You're aware it's still part of the meaning of the word, right? It's an irrational hatred.
    It being a "phobia" does not automatically make it irrational.

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    Not all Trump supporters are racists but all racists tend to be Trump supporters. Now i understand this has more to do with the party he represents than the man himself.

    Having said that, I still remember during the campaign how Trump refused to denounce the support he was getting from that KKK grand wizard or what ever title that fucktard had. So when shit like this happens and Trump's name gets thrown around, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit.

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