Another political quiz

[mage21]

Pretty much what I thought it would be. With all of my socially conservative choices, I'm actually surprised I got "moderate".

[Jastall]

Social liberalism, check.

I'm not as dovish as it claims I am (albeit I'm definitely anti-war unless absolutely required, I do think a military is required for several reasons), but otherwise it's pretty close to correct all around. Albeit some questions are worded a bit poorly.

[Tijuana]

You really seem to enjoy non sequiturs that conclude the other person is just being disingenuous while ignoring any possibility that you're just wrong.

I'm wrong about how my beliefs work? Every Conservative thinker who has ever lived is wrong about their views? We must all accept a Liberal's definition of our views, rather than our own?

Alternatively, the quiz maker could just work with a Conservative while making the questions, in order to get them right. At a minimum, at least present the talking points version the Conservatives put forth, rather than the talking points version of the way Liberals describe Conservatives.

The quiz says I'm a Neo-Liberal.

[mage21]

I'm wrong about how my beliefs work? Every Conservative thinker who has ever lived is wrong about their views? We must all accept a Liberal's definition of our views, rather than our own?

Alternatively, the quiz maker could just work with a Conservative while making the questions, in order to get them right. At a minimum, at least present the talking points version the Conservatives put forth, rather than the talking points version of the way Liberals describe Conservatives.

The quiz says I'm a Neo-Liberal.

Every time these quizzes come up, I'm always skeptical at first that it might just be social engineering. If a quiz pushes people on the right more towards a left-leaning label, the hope might be that those people might start to reconsider "liberalism", "socialism", etc. in a more positive light because, after all, "this quiz I just took says I share ideologies with them!"

Not saying that this happens, but after all the manipulation I've seen in my life, It'd be foolhardy to discount the possibility.

[mage21]

I mean, it's a random quiz on the internet from some random person. You probably shouldn't make any serious life decisions based on what it tells you, but then again, the quiz isn't exactly encouraging you to do that in the first place.

I wouldn't, personally. Just an aside.

[NED funded]

I don't know about bias, but as always with these quizzes, some of the questions feel to broad to be answered simply by "agree/disagree" and others feel circumstantial that hard to answer definitively with the supplied information. But i dont remember seeing anything in this particular quiz that seemed bias toward one way or another.

One of the questions that comes to my mind, that seemed pretty biased or at the very least loaded, was the one that said something like: We should impose our ethnic/cultural and economical beliefs on others. And another one that was the opposite of that.

[mage21]

While I think most of them are okay, there are indeed a few odd ones.

A Christian Democracy. Sometimes I wonder how something like that would turn out today. It could be a small country warm with America so people who didn't like it could go to America. Kinda cool to think about.

[Deleted]

One of the questions that comes to my mind, that seemed pretty loaded or at the very least loaded, was the one that said something like: We should impose our ethnic/cultural and economical beliefs on others. And another one that was the opposite of that.

that question was quite annoying, i'd have clicked agree if it left out the ethnic part on the question :|

[GodlyBob]

To be fair, I didn't do this quiz. The one we often do, that puts you on a grid, has ridiculous questions that read as if the question maker didn't even understand the Conservative, nor the Libertarian positions. I can tell you what the Liberal positions are, and why they think that way, and what the merits are of thinking that way. There is no reason anyone with an education should not be able to do that as well. The fact that those shortcomings exist, is clearly intentional. Therefore, you comment is completely ridiculous, and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

Liberal or libertarian? They are two very different things, and anybody who says that they can tell you why libertarians believe what they do does not understand the core principals of being a libertarian.

[JohnBrown1917]

https://8values.github.io/results.ht...&g=78.4&s=90.3

Libertarian socialist.
Nothing surprising.

[Tijuana]

Every time these quizzes come up, I'm always skeptical at first that it might just be social engineering. If a quiz pushes people on the right more towards a left-leaning label, the hope might be that those people might start to reconsider "liberalism", "socialism", etc. in a more positive light because, after all, "this quiz I just took says I share ideologies with them!"

Not saying that this happens, but after all the manipulation I've seen in my life, It'd be foolhardy to discount the possibility.

After taking this quiz, it appears it's more stupid than biased. So, I give it credit for that.

[randomnamegenerator16]

https://8values.github.io/results.ht...&g=65.4&s=46.2

Libertarian capitalist, not really surprised by the results. Overall I think it is quite good test.

[Tijuana]

Liberal or libertarian? They are two very different things, and anybody who says that they can tell you why libertarians believe what they do does not understand the core principals of being a libertarian.

Uh, I'm a Libertarian, and I can define and explain the reasoning just fine. How could ANY political ideology, not be able to be explained? Your point makes little sense; I suspect you meant to say something else.

[GodlyBob]

Uh, I'm a Libertarian, and I can define and explain the reasoning just fine. How could ANY political ideology, not be able to be explained? Your point makes little sense; I suspect you meant to say something else.

No, libertarianism is the ideology that you can essentially only reliably make decisions for yourself. By saying "I know what other libertarians think, you're essentially removing the individualism of libertarianism, which again, is its entire raison d'etre.

[Felnoire]

Libertarian Socialism apparently pacifism equates to fighting people only when it's necessary >.>

[Tijuana]

No, libertarianism is the ideology that you can essentially only reliably make decisions for yourself. By saying "I know what other libertarians think, you're essentially removing the individualism of libertarianism, which again, is its entire raison d'etre.

What in the world are you on about?

lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

I have no idea why you are a dictionary denier.

[Mister Cheese]

Some questions are really badly worded. They lump traditional values and religion together. When really they don't have to be. That's one that bothered me.

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No, libertarianism is the ideology that you can essentially only reliably make decisions for yourself. By saying "I know what other libertarians think, you're essentially removing the individualism of libertarianism, which again, is its entire raison d'etre.

You can know what other people think. You don't tell them what to think.

[GodlyBob]

What in the world are you on about?

lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

I have no idea why you are a dictionary denier.

https://www.lp.org/platform/

And this entire discussion is kind of proving my point. A political orientation defined entirely through individualism is hard to generalize. I am libertarian but you have no earthly idea why I identify as such, and I take offense to the idea that you understand my beliefs better than I do. That's what being a libertarian is about, the right to individual sovereignty.

[Tijuana]

https://www.lp.org/platform/

And this entire discussion is kind of proving my point. A political orientation defined entirely through individualism is hard to generalize. I am libertarian but you have no earthly idea why I identify as such, and I take offense to the idea that you understand my beliefs better than I do. That's what being a libertarian is about, the right to individual sovereignty.

You are talking in circles and making no point. You clearly do not understand the ideology.

The point is to let all individuals choose for themselves, in areas that don't affect others. The point is not to make everyone think what you think. That is opposite of Libertarianism; that is Authoritarianism.

I mean, honestly, what in the world are you on about?

[GodlyBob]

You are talking in circles and making no point. You clearly do not understand the ideology.

The point is to let all individuals choose for themselves, in areas that don't affect others. The point is not to make everyone think what you think. That is opposite of Libertarianism; that is Authoritarianism.

I mean, honestly, what in the world are you on about?

That's my ENTIRE point. You CANNOT suggest that you are able to tell me how other libertarians think or tell me that I cannot be libertarian because you don't agree with me. To do either of these things, as you have done, is the antithesis of the platform. Do you understand that?