Federal Judge Blocks Trump's Sanctuary City Executive Order

[callipygoustp]

It's absolutely ridiculous that Trump can't do what ever the hell he wants to do. People wonder why he can't keep promises? Here's a prime example!
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[ArmoredDragoon]

Imagine that, the Executive Branch can't just decide whether or cities get funds that Congress has appropriated for them already and that the courts will prevent any overreach of executive power even when it comes to immigration enforcement.

I figure the federal government may be able to because precedent established by the National Minimum Drinking Age Act and the Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act. Could still happen if Congress approved, I imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Amt30_QVQ

[Armakus]

Ah the left. "Free speech is MY constitutional right! not yours!"

The way you choose to interpret this is fascinating.

[Manabomb]

Ah the left. "Free speech is MY constitutional right! not yours!"

I like how you cite free speech in a matter that doesn't at all involve freedom of speech.

Gods the right is so moronic.

[Deleted]

The judge in question is a Democrat activist who has raised atleast 300k $ for Obama.

http://www.citizen.org/whitehousefor...8&mid=20&id=63

His father was also a member of the skull and bones society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Horsley_Orrick_Jr.

[kail]

So this is block #3? 4? Going to lose count in a couple of years if it keeps at this rate.

[Wyrt]

The judge in question is a Democrat activist who has raised atleast 300k $ for Obama.

http://www.citizen.org/whitehousefor...8&mid=20&id=63

His father was also a member of the skull and bones society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Horsley_Orrick_Jr.

Attack the judge all you want. Doesn't change the fact that congress, not the president, is responsible for allocating funds to states.

[Mgann-Morzz]

Lawless cities need to be punished. Cutting their funding is basically a warning. If they continue breaking the law the mayors of these lawless cities will be arrested.

Almost everything iv ever read from you makes you come off as basically a fascist with some strange delusion that your NOT a massive authoritarian.


It's amazing how much of the right claims to be for small Government yet when pushed against the wall by anything that opposes them they switch to complete authoritarianism, the executive above all, fuck congress and the courts, the DEAR LEADER must have absolute power.

[Shadowferal]

And when that happens, every judge that issued one of these illegal rulings, and every mayor and every governor who ignored federal immigration laws, obstructed immigration authorities and harbored illegal aliens will find themselves rotting in federal prison for 10 to 20 years. The days of liberal lawlessness are over. This has nothing to do with race, you liberals have played that card to death. This is about liberals constantly breaking and ignoring laws they don't like. That all ended the day Hillary lost the election.

Wow, you really want to believe that the law is what Trump says it is and not what the judges decide...

Does the US Constitution mean anything to that fucked up narrative you believe in?

[Sinyc]

Imagine that, the Executive Branch can't just decide whether or cities get funds that Congress has appropriated for them already and that the courts will prevent any overreach of executive power even when it comes to immigration enforcement.

Ann Coulter is on suicide watch. Her wet dreams of anchor baby deportations shattered.

Imagine that, a person who only knows what CNN tells them doesn't actually understand what happened here.

No one is on "suicide watch", and I am happy these courts keep blocking poorly written and shitty EOs from Trump.

[Traveler Voltin]

How about spending less time blocking trump and spending more time helping your illegals turn legeal citizens.

[Shadowferal]

How about spending less time blocking trump and spending more time helping your illegals turn legeal citizens.

Maybe you should keep up with what's going on...

It didn't take any time to block Trump.

Maybe Trump should stop wasting time with shitty written EOs that accomplish nothing and focus on doing something that both the legislative and the judicial branches agree with.

[Ghostpanther]

Wow, you really want to believe that the law is what Trump says it is and not what the judges decide...

Does the US Constitution mean anything to that fucked up narrative you believe in?

Well, you are correct the President can not decide anything he wants and it will get approved. But this is not over yet. We have one Supreme Court which decides if a single judge's ruling is Constitutional. And the 9th Circuit Appeals Court has a record of having most of it's decisions which have been appealed, turned over. A very large percentage. :P

[Noxx79]

Well, you are correct the President can not decide anything he wants and it will get approved. But this is not over yet. We have one Supreme Court which decides if a single judge's ruling is Constitutional. And the 9th Circuit Appeals Court has a record of having most of it's decisions which have been appealed, turned over. A very large percentage. :P

That's actually false. A tiny percentage of its decisions are overturned.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...ourt-country-/

Edit: I didn't see the "appealed" part. If you you look at all the circuits, they're all pretty much at or above 50%.
There's many factors for this, most of which lawyers don't try to appeal every single one of their cases all the way up to the top, as they have to have some sort of inkling they'll succeed. It's a skewed metric. Still waiting for the muslim ban appeal. After all, if it's so urgent, wouldn't they have needed to appeal ASAP? Every day that passes with no appeal, the administration loses credibility in the case that the ban is needed. That's not this topic though.

[Belize]

Well, you are correct the President can not decide anything he wants and it will get approved. But this is not over yet. We have one Supreme Court which decides if a single judge's ruling is Constitutional. And the 9th Circuit Appeals Court has a record of having most of it's decisions which have been appealed, turned over. A very large percentage. :P

You're assuming the SCOTUS will even hear the case.

IIRC they declined to hear more cases than they turned over, meaning your turn over statistic is just that.

[Citizen T]

Sanctuary cities aren't breaking the law. Immigration laws are federal laws that need to be handled by federal police, not local police.

Trump, as president, has no authority to impose sanctions on US cities. Funds to cities and states are allocated by congress, not the president.

Actually they are allocated by Congress to be distributed by various Executive branch department according to whatever rules and regulations pertain to that grant and/or department.

So saying that states don't handle federal laws, you are saying that states shouldn't handle (i.e. intervene/turn over evidence of) laws such as espionage, terrorism, counterfeiting, etc.?

[GodlyBob]

Actually they are allocated by Congress to be distributed by various Executive branch department according to whatever rules and regulations pertain to that grant and/or department.

So saying that states don't handle federal laws, you are saying that states shouldn't handle (i.e. intervene/turn over evidence of) laws such as espionage, terrorism, counterfeiting, etc.?

They're not obligated to. Its typically going to be in their best interest to cooperate, but they don't have to. Not all villainous acts are equal. If your neighbor is throwing a party, you might not call the cops because you smell lot, but you're much more likely to turn them in if they're hosting dog fights.

Illegal immigration to a lot of people In California, especially in these "sanctuary cities" has a severity level somewhere between jaywalking and marijuana. If it's not bugging us, why are we going to call people who regularly tell us we're not even real Americans?

[Jeezy911]

The law couldn't be any more clear, the president has this authority. End of story.

[Glorious Leader]

You may be right. We shall see what happens. And no, I am agreement with all the Constitution...silly.

What happpens is the supreme court refuses to see the case. You think with gorsuch on the bench the court will suck.and blow conservatives at every opportunity? That aint how it works. They refuse plenty of cases.

[Slybak]

Best part about the ruling is that it cites as precedent the majority opinion in NFIB v Sebelius - the case that allowed states to opt-out of the Medicaid Expansion under the Affordable Care Act - seven times. Turns out that if the Supreme Court rules unilateral changes to Federal grants to states as unconstitutional, the lower courts will end up abiding by that ruling.

Live by the sword of Federalism, die by the sword of Federalism.