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  1. #41
    I've been on an amazing streak the past few days. 15-3 playing just Diablo and Leoric (11-2 Diablo), with a couple of other random broken heroes thrown in, like Brightwing on Hanamura. I've gotten MVP in at least half these games. I play Raynor too if I need to dps, but I just can't seem to win as much with him, even though I've gotten 3 MVPs on losses with him this season, not even counting the wins. I'm one game under 50% with Ray, but those aren't the results I'm looking for. I have a +80% win rate with tanks, so that's what I going to play, fuck what my team wants.

    I've been mostly playing as a filler the past few seasons and have been steadily dropping from Diamond 1 in season 2, to Gold 1 this season. No more. I just play what I know i can carry with at this point, because if I don't I know we most likely lose anyway. If my team refuses to fill then we lost anyway, because playing support for most of these monkeys isn't worth it. Up to Platinum 4 promo, with a 62% win rate, and a bunch of my losses were in placements where I was still trying to fill.

    My advice, if you know you're good enough to carry in your bracket, make the idiots that actually belong in that bracket fill, and you carry your way to a higher tier.

  2. #42
    did somebody said 50% 50% win/lost ratio?
    i love being able to play 1 game the day i'm supposed to win matches , and 20 games the day i have all the time i want
    the gates in Ahn.Qiraj won't be opening on this server they are bugged working as intended -> some gm during AQ ptr

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    Stop playing a Quick Match? It is a absolute coin toss you can hardly take seriously.

    Or maybe you are simply not good at Zeratul. Obviously I can't read your performance out of mere results, but a lot of people are pushing it on one Hero they like as a character despite struggling to embrace the playstyle. The same cognitive dissonance I experience with Malthael, I like him as character, but I find playing him dull even though he is strong given the right circumstance.

    What I am trying to say is, you need to separate gameplay and character if you go for results and play Heroes you are good on.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    Sigh, I really need to just uninstall
    as someone who finally decided to uninstall hots this weekend due to two weeks of consistently trash game quality - do it, you won't regret it

    the game does not deserve the amount of goodwill it gets considering how non-existent their systems are to punish people who consistently ruin games for everyone else
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    Yea I am close to uninstalling myself, not because of losing streaks but because,

    1. Even when we win, the trash talking during draft gets old.

    2. When you do lose, I've yet to encounter a group of people who knew how to lose gracefully. Not a single time. I mean everyone's all happy go lucky then lose a video game and just go autistic rage mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    Yea I am close to uninstalling myself, not because of losing streaks but because,

    1. Even when we win, the trash talking during draft gets old.

    2. When you do lose, I've yet to encounter a group of people who knew how to lose gracefully. Not a single time. I mean everyone's all happy go lucky then lose a video game and just go autistic rage mode.
    I never experienced anything like this in EU, sure you get occasional complainers but never to such extent you are describing in numerous threads.

    You can still block messages from people you don't have in friend list, turn off chat completely and only time you got to cope with a complainer is during draft. However I still don't understand why people get all so ruffled up by somebody being passive-aggressive in a video game chat.

    You either get a guy talking non-sense, which is amusing, or simply telling a truth. However people have hard time accepting it.
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    I never experienced anything like this in EU, sure you get occasional complainers but never to such extent you are describing in numerous threads
    happened for me all the time in diamond/masters hl, especially this season - eventually it gets boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    happened for me all the time in diamond/masters hl, especially this season - eventually it gets boring
    Still I just have no compassion for people complaining about complainers. People put their time and energy into something and if they feel threatened, they can snap.

    It is life, tiny and meaningless conflicts in grand scheme of things happen almost daily. How can you hate somebody sharing your passion? Obviously the higher you go, you generally get more assertive AND passionate people. Your personality is a huge drive behind your success, some people are calm and calculated while others reach success through embracing their emotions. You can never get rid of that, in lower levels of play you get disillusioned people believing they are better than they truly are and in higher levels of play you reach even further personality extremes.

    Truest sign of good players is not their mechanical skills or game sense, it is the ability to take criticism and cope with disagreements and setbacks. People see every comment as personal attack and sensible remark can quickly escalate into petty conflicts.

    People talk about 'toxic' community only when it comes to players initiating provocative communication, while players who respond in negative manner see themselves as victims which couldn't be further from the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    People talk about 'toxic' community only when it comes to players initiating provocative communication
    not really

    toxic community = people who afk out of games with little to no penalty, people who throw drafts with little to no penalty, people who tilt instantly whenever someone picks a hero they wanted to play/picks a hero that is not tier s or 1 on their favourite tier list , people who just generally make games completely horrible for the other 9 players involved with little to no penalty - people who do all these things while being careful to not type anything during games so they can escape the pathetic only real form of punishment this game has

    I absolutely love this game, from when I first tried it in alpha to now with my level 1006 account, and I could care less about people using rude words on the internet - what I do care about is how their attitude towards "toxicity" since alpha has not changed in the slightest - "rude words in chat are bad, everything else is fine", and after two weeks where 90% of games feature one or more of the above, enough is enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    not really

    toxic community = people who afk out of games with little to no penalty, people who throw drafts with little to no penalty, people who tilt instantly whenever someone picks a hero they wanted to play/picks a hero that is not tier s or 1 on their favourite tier list , people who just generally make games completely horrible for the other 9 players involved with little to no penalty - people who do all these things while being careful to not type anything during games so they can escape the pathetic only real form of punishment this game has

    I absolutely love this game, from when I first tried it in alpha to now with my level 1006 account, and I could care less about people using rude words on the internet - what I do care about is how their attitude towards "toxicity" since alpha has not changed in the slightest - "rude words in chat are bad, everything else is fine", and after two weeks where 90% of games feature one or more of the above, enough is enough
    I find it hard to believe, doesn't happen to me as often.

    The games I lost on intentional bad behaviour is like 1 out of 20 losses, most games I lost were because of bad gameplay or drafting. Usually I see people throwing tantrums when they are called out for repeated mistakes which can escalate into intentional throwing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    I find it hard to believe, doesn't happen to me as often.

    The games I lost on intentional bad behaviour is like 1 out of 20 losses, most games I lost were because of bad gameplay or drafting. Usually I see people throwing tantrums when they are called out for repeated mistakes which can escalate into intentional throwing.
    lucky you, I guess

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    lucky you, I guess
    Luck doesn't really exist in MOBAs. At lower than Master/Grand Master or Master/Challenger in League, you will lose at most 3 games out of 100 because of your team.

  13. #53
    The huge problem with HotS (IMO) is that your game (and hero performance!) is highly dependent on comp/skill of others. If you have bad tank and frontline as a mage such as Li Ming/KT, you are doomed to be useless. If your sustained is bad and cannot get anyone low enough, you're doomed as Greymane or Genji. If your healer doesn't watch for your HP and your DPS doesn't follow on your stuns as Diablo, you're screwed too. The list goes on, and on, and on.

    In close relation to the above is the fact that, unlike in other games, you mostly cannot do anything alone to at least look good yourself. Risky diving will be punished by any decent enemy and won't score you kills either. Roaming alone to get camps will yet again be punished. AoEing the enemy with a mage won't really do anything but getting killed in the end in some trap they've set. Almost anything that might impact a game requires either extremely lucky+skillful play, like a Dragonblade into a low HP team, or a Zeratul/ETC stealing a boss and so on, which 90% of the time will just get you killed - or you will need the full cooperation of your team, which is incredibly unlikely in Silver-->Diamond from my experience.

    Oh, and then there's the MMR. Upload everything to hotslogs and then analyze the games. Yes, even QM. Look at what you get, and what the enemy team gets. For example: your team is 2200 MMR and 14 average hero level. But what are these 2 dudes doing with 5 games in HL each and level 4 heroes? Ohm they won a 5 game streak by luck and now they have huge MMR, and got dumped in your game. Aaaaaaand the other team is 13 average hero level with all heroes around 10-15, with decent experience, and 2100 MMR with tons of games played, thousands.

    Guess which team will win? The one with level 4 Stukov and Dehaka? You think the level 17 Malthael/Valla/Genji were able to carry 2 newbies against an experienced Plat team with thousands of games. Nope, they could not.

    This is why is so easy to go on these losing streaks when you are not in full team with coordinated friends, that know when to stun and who and have a plan together, instead of aimlessly roaming the map at minus 3 levels and 1 talent in 4vs5 looking for a team fight.

    TL;DR: there is insane imbalance in matchmaking in HL. There is insane lack of control for a single player. Unless you can carry games like in the Nostromia case, you are probably doomed to wherever you're stuck in. I have friends stuck in Silver and close to Bronze that play as good as I do at Plat, but they will never make it there, cause they are simply stuck, call it MMR hell, if you want, but the game will more often than not put you with idiots/noobs/flamers/game throwers and you will have to carry, and if you cannot, you will just get mad, mad, mad at the game and the world you live in. Don't believe me? Upload to hotslogs everything, and check the data.

  14. #54
    After playing placements today and two lost because on first game Azmodan didin't care and move solo. On second eh no comment.

    I uinstalled game, i will install back tomorow only for friday hero's brawls and nothing more. I am done! Seriously only 2 games i won yesterday in HL placements and it is hell. Guess my bad series must continue...
    Whatever...

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