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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Alassiel View Post
    any particular reason you play sub instead of ass?
    Lol'd a bit.
    I'm an ass guy anyway
    Quote Originally Posted by Alassiel View Post
    is there anything they did good in this expac?
    Demon hunters.
    Last edited by Cyanix; 2017-05-19 at 11:51 PM.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanix View Post
    Lol'd a bit.
    I'm an ass guy anyway

    Demon hunters.
    Fuck me, you're actually right. I was describing the only good thing about this expac without even realising. Kudos.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Alassiel View Post
    Fuck me, you're actually right. I was describing the only good thing about this expac without even realising. Kudos.
    think your on to something here

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Pureghost001 View Post
    think your on to something here
    No no no no no, the rest of my post was surely not a good thing. DHs sure, the rest, not so much

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Alassiel View Post
    Here I am playing Havoc, and the only thing I have to worry about is keeping my one spec in tip-top shape, not having to grind my ass to stay safe every single fucking patch because one spec might be so far ahead you can't play anything else or people will just ignore you and raid leaders would ask questions (any particular reason you play sub instead of ass? it's more fun? oh well numbers numbers numbers). God damn.

    Blizzard really did and keeps dropping the fucking ball this expac. It's the worst... like fuck, is there anything they did good in this expac?
    sorry you got banned i agree with you that blizzard did break subtlety really bad. idk why they do that.
    Tell them, only that the lich king is dead and that the world of warcraft died with him.

    Truth a double edge sword: always both sides to truth, when combined separates good from evil.
    always good and evil there are.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Alassiel View Post
    Here I am playing Havoc, and the only thing I have to worry about is keeping my one spec in tip-top shape, not having to grind my ass to stay safe every single fucking patch because one spec might be so far ahead you can't play anything else or people will just ignore you and raid leaders would ask questions (any particular reason you play sub instead of ass? it's more fun? oh well numbers numbers numbers). God damn.

    Blizzard really did and keeps dropping the fucking ball this expac. It's the worst... like fuck, is there anything they did good in this expac?
    At least it's pretty easy to get Concordance in all specs, so far almost have it in two weapons already.

  7. #107
    We are pretty good on boss fights, but we are kinda unwanted in PVP (bad damage and utility) and mythic+(no aoe utility, like DH aoe stun and sub/assa do pretty bad and inconsistent aoe dmg)

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by manboiler View Post
    We are pretty good on boss fights, but we are kinda unwanted in PVP (bad damage and utility) and mythic+(no aoe utility, like DH aoe stun and sub/assa do pretty bad and inconsistent aoe dmg)
    Sub does inconsistent aoe damage? Did you even play sub in m+ content? Sub doesn't need rnd procs for aoe like assassin.
    What both specs need is the legy cloak+shoulders to be competitive in aoe thats true.
    What sub is good at is everything. Assa may beat it in ST in 7.2 and can be good in aoe when bomb procs, but once the mobs live long a enough for a full duration nightblade and you can spam shstorm+eviscerate after dotting everything up.
    Sub's aoe is very good. Even boss fights with tyrannical are good as sub because you hold your +1mill dps unlike other classes who fall down after their cd's end and often the boss is dead before they come back up. My shadowblades often last a full tyrannical bossfight thanks to the bracers.
    As Sub with cloak and shoulders only real hard aoe classes beat me and not with a big gap.

  9. #109
    Rogue is no where near under performing.

    Under performers are Unholy, Destruction and Enhancement. (Source: WCL)

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Antenora View Post
    Rogue is no where near under performing.

    Under performers are Unholy, Destruction and Enhancement. (Source: WCL)
    yeah we deal an huge 3k dps more at 95% percentile then destro.

    edit: that is if u are playing sin

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Antenora View Post
    Rogue is no where near under performing.

    Under performers are Unholy, Destruction and Enhancement. (Source: WCL)
    Those are not classes, those are specs.

    You're comparing a whole class to single facets of other classes.

    Who cares is unholy is meh ? Frost DK's are excellent.
    Affli lock is probably the most OP spec in the game right now, why would you want to play destro ?
    Shamans...yeah...enhancement is not exactly great but then again there are two other available specs...

    Rogues as a class are not exactly great at this right moment. They're ok'ish, but there's not really a single segment in the game where you could say they really shine.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanix View Post
    Those are not classes, those are specs.
    Affli lock is probably the most OP spec in the game right now, why would you want to play destro ?
    Despite myself playing Affliction since Classic and loving it (only to take a break from it with Destruction during MOP), there may be such a thing as personal preference. What if affliction is not fun to you and you prefer destruction?

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanix View Post
    Those are not classes, those are specs.

    You're comparing a whole class to single facets of other classes.

    Who cares is unholy is meh ? Frost DK's are excellent.
    Affli lock is probably the most OP spec in the game right now, why would you want to play destro ?
    Shamans...yeah...enhancement is not exactly great but then again there are two other available specs...

    Rogues as a class are not exactly great at this right moment. They're ok'ish, but there's not really a single segment in the game where you could say they really shine.
    ever tried outlaw with wrist + mantle ???

  14. #114
    Rogues do the shit jobs, that's it.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Creativlol View Post
    Sub does inconsistent aoe damage? Did you even play sub in m+ content? Sub doesn't need rnd procs for aoe like assassin.
    What both specs need is the legy cloak+shoulders to be competitive in aoe thats true.
    What sub is good at is everything. Assa may beat it in ST in 7.2 and can be good in aoe when bomb procs, but once the mobs live long a enough for a full duration nightblade and you can spam shstorm+eviscerate after dotting everything up.
    Sub's aoe is very good. Even boss fights with tyrannical are good as sub because you hold your +1mill dps unlike other classes who fall down after their cd's end and often the boss is dead before they come back up. My shadowblades often last a full tyrannical bossfight thanks to the bracers.
    As Sub with cloak and shoulders only real hard aoe classes beat me and not with a big gap.
    Sub still performs far worse than outlaw in aoe though

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by manboiler View Post
    We are pretty good on boss fights, but we are kinda unwanted in PVP (bad damage and utility) and mythic+(no aoe utility, like DH aoe stun and sub/assa do pretty bad and inconsistent aoe dmg)
    pvp is really terrible in legion for rogue. if im not working towards some pve content i used to find time to do the casual bgs and when i play rogue i play like 2-5 casual bgs in a given session (Draenor). i don't do this anymore in fact the last time i did a casual i remember a specific over powered demon hunter ripping my characters face off so its an unwanted experience altogether. subscription declining time spent on character decline during legion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antenora View Post
    Rogue is no where near under performing.

    Under performers are Unholy, Destruction and Enhancement. (Source: WCL)
    the experience is under performing we all want draenor subtlety back
    Tell them, only that the lich king is dead and that the world of warcraft died with him.

    Truth a double edge sword: always both sides to truth, when combined separates good from evil.
    always good and evil there are.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by kuchikitoko View Post
    ever tried outlaw with wrist + mantle ???
    Yeah, i even played it on our Guldan Mythic tries for the lulz. Not impressed in the slightest.

  18. #118
    Rogues always follow the same pattern in nearly every expansion. Mediocre or slightly above average in earlier tiers, and then overpowered by the final tier because of blanket buffs and blizz adding some op trinket. But to be fair, assassination was quite powerful throughout nighthold progression at least. As for rogues underperforming, I think it's more about Aff locks and Frost dk's being too strong rather than rogues being too weak.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanix View Post
    Yeah, i even played it on our Guldan Mythic tries for the lulz. Not impressed in the slightest.
    im not one to talk since i dont play it but git gud then becouse outlaw is really op rn just fish for TB and spam vanish.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Thieves cant View Post
    pvp is really terrible in legion for rogue. if im not working towards some pve content i used to find time to do the casual bgs and when i play rogue i play like 2-5 casual bgs in a given session (Draenor). i don't do this anymore in fact the last time i did a casual i remember a specific over powered demon hunter ripping my characters face off so its an unwanted experience altogether. subscription declining time spent on character decline during legion

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    the experience is under performing we all want draenor subtlety back
    Yeah pretty much. Now I am not a pro pvper or anything, but we are indeed pretty bad, at least in lower arena and random bgs. When I play my rogue(main) it doesn't matter what I do, I just can't keep up against specific classes, like I use up all my cd's and the target's still not dead. But when I log onto my dh I just faceroll all spells (literally) and win.

    Now, we can keep up with many classes to be fair, but I srsly have no idea how to beat a DH, frost DK or paladin as a rogue.

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