Thread: Is Odyn evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    I think yogg getting rid of him was more a case of "Im timeless eldritch horror and even i dont want to deal with this guys bullshit".

    And yes, he was a prime designate....and the he lost his job. And what ifs dont really matter, what matter is that he was stuck in his basement jerking to his own valor for last 10k years. Than again, its probably for the best. As for heyla, she is his own product and everything she did is odyns fault. So for every ship sunk and every coastal village burned by kvaldir we have glorious redneck to thank for.
    Which means that Odyn and his Valarjar were indeed a threat to him.

    The fact that he "lost his job" does not make him incompetent. There was a disagreement between the Keepers on how things were to be done. And ultimately, both options (Aspects and Valarjar) failed. Well, now that Odyn has been freed, it remains to be seen if the Valarjar are failures.

    I admit that what Odyn did to Helya was wrong and blew up in his face in the end. But then again, if she remained under Odyn's control, his plans would be running smoothly. And they did for an unkown period of time, since it is only when Loken was corrupted by Yogg-Saron that he freed Helya. No Keeper ever did anything to help her before that. So his plans did not fail because he was incompetent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Which means that Odyn and his Valarjar were indeed a threat to him.

    The fact that he "lost his job" does not make him incompetent. There was a disagreement between the Keepers on how things were to be done. And ultimately, both options (Aspects and Valarjar) failed. Well, now that Odyn has been freed, it remains to be seen if the Valarjar are failures.

    I admit that what Odyn did to Helya was wrong and blew up in his face in the end. But then again, if she remained under Odyn's control, his plans would be running smoothly. And they did for an unkown period of time, since it is only when Loken was corrupted by Yogg-Saron that he freed Helya. No Keeper ever did anything to help her before that. So his plans did not fail because he was incompetent.
    We are yet to see valarjar being threat to anyone. Best they can do was...send assasins after skovalds family ? Oh and failing to kill 2 out of 3 targets. Guess screaming about valor and glory doesnt go well with assasinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    We are yet to see valarjar being threat to anyone. Best they can do was...send assasins after skovalds family ? Oh and failing to kill 2 out of 3 targets. Guess screaming about valor and glory doesnt go well with assasinations.
    Well, sadly, when you look at history, it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Well, sadly, when you look at history, it does.
    Not really, people who can shut the fuck up at least till get to point blank range are much better.

    I can imagine odyn assasins yelling at their victims from like 2 kilometers. "Sniveling pig ! Your death will bring me great honor !"

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    I finished the World Quest "Fall of the Felskorn" in Broken Shore with my Rogue, and Odyn's response is interesting.

    (This is from my memory so it might be a little off, but the general idea is here)

    "Your fought very well Rogue, it's a shame that you're not born a Warrior. Well, I guess not everyone is without flaws."

    That's right, Odyn treats a person not being born a warrior is a personal flaw, similar to some medieval society treat not being born into a certain Caste a flaw, except, this Caste is Warrior in Odyn's case.

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    Of course he is, and I can't wait until he's a raid boss so we can kill him dead.

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