Tennessee Offers Free Community College for All Adults

[Theinquisition]

I'd rather have the entire thing tied to people getting a job afterward or they lose the degree entirely. Like what the do in Russia. Can care less if they get a 4.0. It keeps people from seeking basketweaving degrees that are useless. More useless than someone that got through with a 2.2 gpa and got a job afterwards.

honestly, I'd like to see programs like these only cover degree programs that lead to employment in fields with double digit growth rates. That's just me though.

[TITAN308]

Cool I guess?

I mean I think the GPA requirement is a bit low, I'd like to see it at 3.0. furthermore after FASFA thee wouldn't be much cost left over.

I think the problem would revolve around rising costs associated with the law, schools charging the government more, and other administrative costs.

If the gov't of TN can afford it, good on them I guess.

No kidding, its 2.0 in Georgia as well.

I'm at a 3.9 myself and I am by no means a tryhard when it comes to school work.

honestly, I'd like to see programs like these only cover degree programs that lead to employment in fields with double digit growth rates. That's just me though.

So much this.

If you want a paid degree in taco salad interpretive dance go pay for it yourself.

I have zero problems with free education as long as it is not addressed as "here are the funds, go do whatever you want with it".

[Barnabas]

honestly, I'd like to see programs like these only cover degree programs that lead to employment in fields with double digit growth rates. That's just me though.

If it covered job training so we can get adults out of having to work at mcdonalds for the rest of their life it would be a positive. Then younger people can have those jobs part time while they are in school. Have some normalcy finally and not this ridiculous notion that we need to raise the minimum wage nationwide so people that can't afford to live off it won't ever have to.

[Resiak]

If it covered job training so we can get adults out of having to work at mcdonalds for the rest of their life it would be a positive. Then younger people can have those jobs part time while they are in school. Have some normalcy finally and not this ridiculous notion that we need to raise the minimum wage nationwide so people that can't afford to live off it won't ever have to.

I always wondered, if only high school kids are supposed to working in fast food places, who exactly is working in these places during school hours, or if their all night places, after 11 when it's illegal to keep minors.

[yurano]

I'm at a 3.9 myself and I am by no means a tryhard when it comes to school work.

This doesn't suggest the achieving a 3.0 is easy. This suggests you could have gone to a more competitive school.

I remember the start of third year, when all of the CC transfers flooded in laughing at 2.5-3.5s when they had 3.9+ and many of them had 4-0s.

Guess who AP'd their first quarter at a 4-year college? (btw AP is < 2.0)

[Barnabas]

But you can "finish" school with a 2.0 gpa in almost all cases. If that's your qualification then you should agree a 2.0 is fine.

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So... if the economy is bad for their particular degree at the given time or there's not many people hiring in their area then fuck them? There's zero logical reasoning for this sort of thing.



That doesn't give them the chance to change majors though. A lot of people end up doing that because they choose something they don't enjoy and therefore they don't work as hard or perform as well.

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The significant majority of students aren't getting degrees in stupid shit like "women's studies" or "dancing" or whatever nonsense people tend to generalize college student millennials with.

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You know there aren't enough jobs for everyone if you cut out all the service industry jobs you're talking about, right?

Why would you take a degree that it is impossible for you to get a job with? That is the entire point of making sure you get a job afterward so you don't take degrees that are useless. :thinking:

People can take those jobs if they prefer evening classes?

[Theinquisition]

I always wondered, if only high school kids are supposed to working in fast food places, who exactly is working in these places during school hours, or if their all night places, after 11 when it's illegal to keep minors.

folks with no other marketable skills.

[TITAN308]

This doesn't suggest the achieving a 3.0 is easy. This suggests you could have gone to a more competitive school.

I remember the start of third year, when all of the CC transfers flooded in laughing at 2.5-3.5s when they had 3.9+ and many of them had 4-0s.

Guess who AP'd their first quarter at a 4-year college? (btw AP is < 2.0)

I'd believe it. I mean for starters I'm not taking rocket science or anything that should be hard. The most "technical" part of my courses are understanding various laws and retaining that knowledge. I have a personal interest in the course studies so that does give me an edge as I was familiar with a lot of the work before even opening a book.

Hell I was ecstatic when I got a 90 in my basic math courses a few years back.

Seriously. I hate math. I might as well felt like I graduated with a degree in aeronautical engineering. lol

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The significant majority of students aren't getting degrees in stupid shit like "women's studies" or "dancing" or whatever nonsense people tend to generalize college student millennials with.

That is fine and dandy. I don't want any degrees paid for in "women's studies" or "dancing". Zero.

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folks with no other marketable skills.

or neck tattoos lmao

[matt4pack]

folks with no other marketable skills.

But they're a necessary part of society so why don't you chill with the arrogance. Maybe you don't like having your trash picked up or roads to drive on so you can get to your job requiring marketable skills. If you do maybe show a little respect.

At least these folks are doing an honest days work which is needed for a society to function.

[TITAN308]

But they're a necessary part of society so why don't you chill with the arrogance. Maybe you don't like having your trash picked up or roads to drive to your job requiring marketable skills.

trashmen actually get paid pretty good and its often a county job with benefits

A quick look @ Google shows a median salary of $32,000ish. Higher end with OT approaches $70,000.

Lower end is $18,000 (bottom 10%) - still better than burgers.

Depending where you live that is good money for someone with no college education.

[Berengil]

I was doing a little more thinking about this, and I'd recommend it be extended to vo-tech schools as well. Skilled trades like plumber, electrician, carpentry, etc make decent money.

[TITAN308]

I was doing a little more thinking about this, and I'd recommend it be extended to vo-tech schools as well. Skilled trades like plumber, electrician, carpentry, etc make decent money.

Absolutely. Welders make good money if they are good at what they do.

[kasuke06]

well, CC is the cheapest form of college,(even in "Sweet jesus why is everything so expensive!?" california it'll run you less than 100 a semester usually.) So that shouldn't hurt that much.

And most CCs offer specific job training programs(like welding specific courses and such)

[truckboattruck]

free?? how is this possible?


all community colleges have waved all fees?

[Spiffums]

Cool I guess?

I mean I think the GPA requirement is a bit low, I'd like to see it at 3.0. furthermore after FASFA thee wouldn't be much cost left over.

I think the problem would revolve around rising costs associated with the law, schools charging the government more, and other administrative costs.

If the gov't of TN can afford it, good on them I guess.

All that lottery money has to go somewhere!

[TITAN308]

free?? how is this possible?


all community colleges have waved all fees?

I know in Georgia we have the Zell Miller grant. Coupled with Pell grant (federal) students pay zero. Actually students often get a negative balance refund check even after book purchases. I'm assuming the left overs is to buy school cloths, maybe a laptop or something.

I don't pay a dime and I average $500-$1000 left over every semester.

I'm not exactly sure why they give us back a refund check of so much, but it is what it is. How do you "refund" something that costs someone zero? lol

[Zan15]

damn communist socialist republicans from TN, they are probably Muslim not even born in this country..!!!

[Logwyn]

I know a lot of people are against the idea of free college, usually citing everything from economic concerns to entitlement, but no one ever brings up the simplest counterpoint:

We already have public education that carries a child from kindergarten to 12th grade, funded by taxpayers. Why does that public education stop there? Why should college be optional in an economic environment that practically demands a solid higher education for anything beyond flipping burgers?

Why are people against the idea of pushing education past the 12th grade?

The issue that I can see is that we push College on everyone. That is we push for everyone to go and get a four year degree from University of <Insert State Here>. College is not for everyone and it seems to be the only path after high school that is emphasized. Also a four year degree does not equal a job or a successful career after you are done. College seems to be heralded as the only way to be successful.

Technical and Trade schools are ignored. I have a friend whose brother honestly is not that book smart. If he was sent to a four year college to get a BS in Whatever he'd have flunked out in the first semester. Well he became a Semi-Truck drive and makes a pretty good income. Why push and force College on everyone and waste the money?

[wowaccounttom]

2.0 is too low imo.. 3.0 too high to due bell curves and challenged people...


2.5 sounds fair enough to the system.

[Gemini Soul]

Wonder how much of a difference this will make, people with degrees are already in menial labor jobs as is. College degree's doesn't guarantee you a skilled job, gives you chance at getting one.