Is the future set in stone?

[Draco-Onis]

If I ask you whether you would rather have some cake or have your hands chopped off, and my plan is to make you to eat the cake, does that mean you haven't made a choice?

Wrong analogy in this case you are all powerful and made an unbreakable plan for me to eat cake regardless of what the other choice was. A human plan can be changed or broken god's plan cannot be there's the rub.

[LMuhlen]

If I ask you whether you would rather have some cake or have your hands chopped off, and my plan is to make you to eat the cake, does that mean you haven't made a choice?

If you made the laws that regulate the way his brain work in a way that, given this choice, he would choose cake, then it is not a real choice. He will think about it and choose cake. Assuming the laws you created and your plan aren't conflicting with each other, of course.

[the game]

I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but you answered your own question in the OP. Perhaps you meant to ask or phrase it differently.

The thread is meant to pull away from all of the political threads and have a theoretical discussion about something that might provoke though.

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If you made the laws that regulate the way his brain work in a way that, given this choice, he would choose cake, then it is not a real choice. He will think about it and choose cake. Assuming the laws you created and your plan aren't conflicting with each other, of course.

Are you talking about a religious or atheistic interpretation? In both cases the laws that regulate the way your brain work make you choose cake.

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Theres really no need to try and solve a paradox, because travel to the past looks impossible. Otherwise we'd be seeing time travelers around.

[LMuhlen]

Are you talking about a religious or atheistic interpretation? In both cases the laws that regulate the way your brain work make you choose cake.

While I think atheistic, I see both approaches leading to the same place, with the distinction that for religious people there is a plan, suggesting an intelligence, and in my point of view there is no plan, only laws in place that guide everything. The outcome is the same, though.

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Theres really no need to try and solve a paradox, because travel to the past looks impossible. Otherwise we'd be seeing time travelers around.

Maybe they are all around us. Brilliant minds ahead of their times. Normal folks living the moment. Crazies on the streets shouting "I'm from the future and the end is near!"...

Or maybe travaling to the past requires an arriving beacon that we haven't created yet.

[Novakhoro]

Yes the future is set in stone. Determinism is true as there is no incorporeal thing which is able to act on a physical body

[BloodyAngel12]

There's no fate but what we make for ourselves

[ComputerNerd]

If you believe each decision creates a new timeline, then THAT future is set, just not for this you.

[Knolan]

A vision! AI SEE ET

I see you're a man/woman/apache of culture as well

[Video Games]

I see you're a man/woman/apache of culture as well

Well i was born in a world of strife.