Trump Administration Weighing Future Of 50,000 Haitians In U.S.

[Independent voter]

They're refugees from that Haiti earthquake several years ago only they don't have refugee status, they have something called "temporary protected status".

The vast majority have jobs and are paying taxes.

Send them back to Haiti?






http://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526690...aitians-in-u-s

Many Haitians living in this country are on edge wondering if they'll be able to stay here. They're waiting to hear if the Trump administration will allow them to continue what's called temporary protected status. The program has given tens of thousands of Haitians shelter in the U.S. From Miami, NPR's Greg Allen reports.

GREG ALLEN, BYLINE: An estimated 50,000 Haitians are currently in the U.S. under temporary protected status. That's a designation ordered by President Obama in 2010, shortly after the earthquake that left more than 300,000 Haitians dead and their country in rubble. It allows Haitians to remain here until they can return home safely.

TPS has been renewed three times since then as Haiti has reeled from a series of disasters, including a cholera epidemic and, last year, Hurricane Matthew. The current designation runs out next month. And a Trump administration official has recommended not renewing it. In Miami, Marleine Bastien says that news sent fear through the Haitian community.

MARLEINE BASTIEN: I have TPS recipients walking into my office wanting to know what to do. Should I put my house on sale? Should I close my business? What should I do? It is really creating a sense of panic.

ALLEN: In a letter to Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly last month, the head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services said Haiti has made significant progress since the 2010 earthquake. In the letter, James McCament recommends ending temporary protected status in January, allowing an additional six months to give everyone time to adjust.

Speaking over a scratchy phone line from Haiti, where he helps run a health care provider, Paul Farmer said there has been some progress. But an estimated 40,000 Haitians are still living in tents and makeshift shelters. He says the cholera epidemic is still not under control. The justification for lifting the protected status, that conditions have ameliorated, he said, isn't borne out on the ground.

PAUL FARMER: I think you'd be hard-pressed to say that amelioration is the right word, maybe patchy improvements.

ALLEN: If the Trump administration ends TPS, it will be hard on Haitians who'll be forced to return home, also hard on their friends and relatives in Haiti who depend on remittances from the U.S. Marleine Bastien with Haitian Women of Miami says because many children are U.S. citizens, it may be most difficult for families.

BASTIEN: I had a parent who came with tears in his voice talking about his two little girls who are doing so well in an elementary school. One of them recently won a spelling bee. He was so proud and wondering, what will happen to them?

ALLEN: Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly has to decide by May 23 whether to extend temporary protected status or send 50,000 Haitians back home. Greg Allen, NPR News, Miami.

[satimy]

Sounds like 50,000 jobs/wages for unemployed citizens

[Edge-]

Sounds like 50,000 jobs/wages for unemployed citizens

We're at 4.4% unemployment dude.

Alternatively, 20%, 30%, 40%, possibly even as high as 50% unemployment. Nobody knows!

[satimy]

We're at 4.4% unemployment dude.

Alternatively, 20%, 30%, 40%, possibly even as high as 50% unemployment. Nobody knows!

this country isn't a fucking charity for every shitty failed state in the world. God forbid you try to help the people already here and struggling. They must just be lazy privileged white people.

[Edge-]

this country isn't a fucking charity for every shitty failed state in the world.

Yeah, those people are just awful that their country was struck by a massive earthquake and didn't have the resources to rebuild. What the fuck is wrong with those freeloaders and their children? Move somewhere where there aren't earthquakes!

God forbid you try to help the people already here and struggling.

By cutting trillions in programs for low income folks? Because that's part of Trumps proposed budget.

Also, how is kicking them out helping anyone here who's struggling?

They must just be lazy privileged white people.

Why do you have to bring race into this?

[satimy]

Yeah, those people are just awful that their country was struck by a massive earthquake and didn't have the resources to rebuild. What the fuck is wrong with those freeloaders and their children? Move somewhere where there aren't earthquakes!



By cutting trillions in programs for low income folks? Because that's part of Trumps proposed budget.

Also, how is kicking them out helping anyone here who's struggling?



Why do you have to bring race into this?

Those programs haven't done shit, the poverty rate has increased. This country has given more fucking aid to Haiti than anyone else in the world. What does Trunp have to do with any of this? This country needs a massive reinvestment into its own people. National socialized healthcare, massive rebuilding of infrastructure and massive reinvestment into public education.

Stop funding colleges that have 2000 middle eastern and Chinese students and cause tuition to skyrocket.
Invest in your own people
Fuck everyone else

[Heladys]

this country isn't a fucking charity for every shitty failed state in the world. God forbid you try to help the people already here and struggling. They must just be lazy privileged white people.

Hey, maybe we can get the coal industry going again, right? Cause that's going to happen.

[satimy]

Hey, maybe we can get the coal industry going again, right? Cause that's going to happen.

So coal and Haitian immigrants are related how?

[Heladys]

So coal and Haitian immigrants are related how?

Because your idiot-in-chief pushed the exact same line you did, while lying to lazy privileged people at home about restarting their defunct industry, and they bought it because they were stupid.

[satimy]

Because your idiot-in-chief pushed the exact same line you did, while lying to lazy privileged people at home about restarting their defunct industry, and they bought it because they were stupid.

Are you not American? You said my which would imply not yours, and if that's the case your opinion on how we should run My country is meaningless to me

[Ripster42]

It must pain you, satimy, to know that trump extended legal protection for the hatians. Are you off the trump train now?

But really, finally an act that shows trump can at least pretend to be compassionate.

[Edge-]

It must pain you, satimy, to know that trump extended legal protection for the hatians. Are you off the trump train now?

But really, finally an act that shows trump can at least pretend to be compassionate.

Hey, good on him (or whoever spearheaded this in the administration) for this.

[Wyrt]

this country isn't a fucking charity for every shitty failed state in the world. God forbid you try to help the people already here and struggling. They must just be lazy privileged white people.

Failed state you say? Want to take guesses on which country fucked Haiti over multiple times? I'll give you a hint, they have 50,000 refugees from Haiti right now.

[Cyberowl]

Failed state you say? Want to take guesses on which country fucked Haiti over multiple times? I'll give you a hint, they have 50,000 refugees from Haiti right now.

Alternative US? :thinking:

[Z-Man]

So coal and Haitian immigrants are related how?

Both are...black?

[satimy]

It must pain you, satimy, to know that trump extended legal protection for the hatians. Are you off the trump train now?

But really, finally an act that shows trump can at least pretend to be compassionate.

I was never on the Trump train, I just refused to get on the hyperbolic end of the world Hitler train. If Trump is a white supremacist then he's the shittiest most tolerant nazi of all time.

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It must pain you, satimy, to know that trump extended legal protection for the hatians. Are you off the trump train now?

But really, finally an act that shows trump can at least pretend to be compassionate.

You also don't find it ironic that we can't have real adult discussions about immigration because too many anchor babies have become drones for the Democratic Party. 59000 people is a small price to pay and considering it's a natural disaster and americas status we are no bad to do it. They should go back when Haiti is rebuilt though

[Berengil]

Yeah, those people are just awful that their country was struck by a massive earthquake and didn't have the resources to rebuild. What the fuck is wrong with those freeloaders and their children? Move somewhere where there aren't earthquakes!

Regrettable, to be sure. But you know what? One country can't be expected to save the world every time we turn around. I am all out of fcks to give about an ungrateful world.

[Berengil]

They obviously weren't the best candidates for the jobs, so they don't deserve them. Business isn't a charity. Stop trying to turn this country into socialism.

Maybe not, but they can vote. We've recently been treated to a view of what happens when desperate people vote. So, maybe a little socialism is better than that.

Personally, I'm a full-on Sanders supporter on Democratic Socialism.

People are human beings, not simply resources to be evaluated for their usefulness.

Of course my first concern is for my own countrymen. We can't be expected to bleed ourselves dry for the world's benefit.

[Berengil]

And yet we're talking of kicking people out with no regard for how it will affect them just to open up jobs for apparently inferior employees rather than taking care of them through social programs.

As I said, my countrymen are my first concern. The resources of the US are for them first, and those resources aren't infinite.

[Powerogue]

I mean it has been 7 years. It's called temporary protected status for a reason.