I think Blizzard will be making a mistake

[Deleted]

If they make Artifact Weapon Appearances unavailable to unlock after Legion

I already know some people are going to argue the prestigious argument and what not but I think you need to consider the benefits in the long run. Soloing raids/dungeons from previous expansions is hugely popular and is an incentive for people to keep playing be it trying to get that mount or mog item! If Blizzard remove Artifact Appearances that severely reduces the incentive for people to spend time soloing Mythics and Raids in Legion in the future considerably. I honestly think removing them will be a wasted opportunity and also demonstrate that the amount of work going into them was wasted if only a handful have them

[Mackeith]

"Handful"? :P

[Plutarch78]

Agreed. But, it's Blizzard we're talking about.

[Manabomb]

I completely agree with you on that. When it comes down to it, Artifact Appearances are straight up the replacement for weapon skins in this expansion. To me, this is akin to them removing every weapon drop from every boss of an expansion. A heavy handed move that results in more meaningful content being lost than artificial prestige being gained.

And I say artificial prestige because yes, it's only prestige because Blizzard deems it so. They want it to be, so it is. This idea you're special because they deemed it so is exactly the delusion Blizzard is feeding off.

And it's the embrace of this delusion that ends up scorning more players than it ever emboldens.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

If they leave them people bitch. If thety take them people bitch. Pretty much they should just do what they want and just expect.. you guessed it.. bitch.

[A Chozo]

Agreed, but they are adamant with bad decisions, and unlike some other devs, they avoid aknowledging mistakes.

[Mackeith]

Agreed, but they are adamant with bad decisions, and unlike some other devs, they avoid aknowledging mistakes.

I've heard multiple times during their Q&A, where Ion just flat out is saying "We made a mistake", or "We dropped the ball on that one", etc.

[Deleted]

only skin id be able to agree with removing is mage tower one since is i believe to be somewhat legions version of Challenge modes in past. But i really dont want tke skins to be removed

[Manabomb]

If they leave them people bitch. If thety take them people bitch. Pretty much they should just do what they want and just expect.. you guessed it.. bitch.

I still find it amazing that even well worded arguments on this forum get summed down to 'bitching.'

Is it whining when Blizzard says they can't do something due to technical, time or story limitations?

[Deleted]

If they leave them people bitch. If thety take them people bitch. Pretty much they should just do what they want and just expect.. you guessed it.. bitch.

I would argue the people bitching if they kept them in is considerably smaller

[Ifrica]

What I'm wondering about most with the removal of the artifacts, what will happen to the leveling experience itself for new people. How will one get a weapon during the legion leveling? because now we're doing the whole zone with our artifact, but if it gets removed what will the option be? Needing a heirloom to be able to lvl? or walking around with a WoD weapon until 110?

[Mirishka]

If they make Artifact Weapon Appearances unavailable to unlock after Legion

I already know some people are going to argue the prestigious argument and what not but I think you need to consider the benefits in the long run. Soloing raids/dungeons from previous expansions is hugely popular and is an incentive for people to keep playing be it trying to get that mount or mog item! If Blizzard remove Artifact Appearances that severely reduces the incentive for people to spend time soloing Mythics and Raids in Legion in the future considerably. I honestly think removing them will be a wasted opportunity and also demonstrate that the amount of work going into them was wasted if only a handful have them

They've said that the appearances will remain available, but people will only be able to transmog the ones they actually attained during Legion.

[Deleted]

only skin id be able to agree with removing is mage tower one since is i believe to be somewhat legions version of Challenge modes in past. But i really dont want tke skins to be removed

I don't know, they're argument behind gating the Mage Tower behind ilvl was the assumption everybody will eventually reach the appropriate ilvl

[Manabomb]

What I'm wondering about most with the removal of the artifacts, what will happen to the leveling experience itself for new people. How will one get a weapon during the legion leveling? because now we're doing the whole zone with our artifact, but if it gets removed what will the option be? Needing a heirloom to be able to lvl? or walking around with a WoD weapon until 110?

I honestly figured they would just add vendors into the game and then proceed to modify the scale rates of mobs.

But again, it's one of the reasons why I originally doubted their words on it being fixed to this expansion: It's so deeply rooted in how the expansion progresses that Legion would be utterly unplayable without it.

[Deleted]

They've said that the appearances will remain available, but people will only be able to transmog the ones they actually attained during Legion.

Which is essentially the same since we won't be using the Artifact post Legion.

[Sunaka]

What I'm wondering about most with the removal of the artifacts, what will happen to the leveling experience itself for new people. How will one get a weapon during the legion leveling? because now we're doing the whole zone with our artifact, but if it gets removed what will the option be? Needing a heirloom to be able to lvl? or walking around with a WoD weapon until 110?

You'll probably still get the base Artifact and be able to put relics in it, but not be able to unlock skins. Otherwise they'd have to change the whole story of the expansion. Skins aren't necessary for that story.

[Lime]

How to get people to resub: Make an announcement saying that random items from this expansion are going to become unobtainable. Now everyone who doesn't want to risk losing out on it has to buy Legion and resub.

They've done stuff like this since forever, but it wasn't until MoP when they were bleeding subs that they decided to make it a standard for every expansion.

In short: They will do it and continue to do it in every future expansion because they know that whether or not people like the idea of it, it will still make Blizzard money.

[Cæli]

there is so many total content and rewards now that making unavailable reward is literally irrelevant

[Aggrophobic]

If they make Artifact Weapon Appearances unavailable to unlock after Legion

I already know some people are going to argue the prestigious argument and what not but I think you need to consider the benefits in the long run. Soloing raids/dungeons from previous expansions is hugely popular and is an incentive for people to keep playing be it trying to get that mount or mog item! If Blizzard remove Artifact Appearances that severely reduces the incentive for people to spend time soloing Mythics and Raids in Legion in the future considerably. I honestly think removing them will be a wasted opportunity and also demonstrate that the amount of work going into them was wasted if only a handful have them

I agree, it's a bad idea.
Going back for things like transmogs is a larg part of the game for some players.

I don't really care that much myself though but I still think it's a mistake.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I still find it amazing that even well worded arguments on this forum get summed down to 'bitching.'

Is it whining when Blizzard says they can't do something due to technical, time or story limitations?

It is bitching. I mean I may or may not want them to keep the appearances. Tell you the truth I am not to worried about it either way. Sure I got an opinion but that is all it really is. Whichever way they go I won't be worrying about it to much. Just a video game I play. No reason to lose sleep over it. If I did then it would boil down to just bitching.