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    thats an odd-looking Kel'thuzad

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Well, he is the latest support anyway. Main problem with Lucio is he has been overnerfed, his healing is way too low to solo heal anything before level 16 and his other usability outside of supporting is extremely limited to even consider picking him.

    However there is only as much as they can do with Supports. It is the same problem with main Tanks, to make their way into game as main Tank or Support they need a specific qualities in their kit no matter what cool mechanics Blizzard gives them, otherwise they will always be outshined by existing Heroes.

    I personally don't believe people want so many Supports added to the game, they are never as popular as other roles. Sure they have potential to shake the meta, but I still think it is mostly a cry for justice or something. Now if we want to talk about 'justice', latest main Tank added to the game was Johanna. Yes, you might count Varian, but his kit extremely one-dimensional and limited due the Multi-Class when it comes to Tank build.
    Like I keep saying, we need a debuff support hero. Throw a debuff on someone and if you attack them you get healed, or you use your own health to heal people and you heal yourself by hurting/debuffing enemies. Then we can have an evil support(not including BW).
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    Really, what this game needs is more support heroes.
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    he deals with there being multi-tanks in the meta and multi-support with the anti-healing.
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    As much as I like the design of Malthael, I really hope they give us a rest will all the assassins for a while. We need a new support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    As much as I like the design of Malthael, I really hope they give us a rest will all the assassins for a while. We need a new support.
    You make it sound like we've been getting nothing but assassins lately...when out of the 5 most recently released heroes, only 2 of them(Genji and Cassia) have been assassins. There's also been a warrior(D.Va), a support(Lucio), and a specialist(Probius). Sure, a new support is fine, but you have to keep in mind, there are a LOT of players who don't like to(or flat out won't) play support(cause, for better or for worse, a lot of people are all about the damage), so there's always gonna be fewer of them released than there are assassins. Personally, I'd like to see another full on tank released myself, or another "weird" specialist like Abathur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcall View Post
    Personally, I'd like to see another full on tank released myself, or another "weird" specialist like Abathur...
    Agreed. It's odd that at least 1/2 the replied to this thread are about how we haven't had a support in ages, when in reality it's not been THAT long since we got one.

    Whereas, we've not had a tank since Johanna. All the warriors that have been released since have been bruisers.
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    People keep asking for new support.

    Do you want more OW characters?

    Cause thats how you get more OW characters. (Ana)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    People keep asking for new support.

    Do you want more OW characters?

    Cause thats how you get more OW characters. (Ana)
    Jokes on you... it's going to be Symmetra who's really a defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    People keep asking for new support.

    Do you want more OW characters?

    Cause thats how you get more OW characters. (Ana)
    Yeah, I'll take more OW characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apepi View Post
    Like I keep saying, we need a debuff support hero. Throw a debuff on someone and if you attack them you get healed, or you use your own health to heal people and you heal yourself by hurting/debuffing enemies. Then we can have an evil support(not including BW).
    Yeah, those ideas seem cool.

    Just my initial point was Tanks and Healers are tougher to design as they don't provide as much freedom. This might be tricky situation because if you make niche Healer or Tank, people will eventually complain because they expect those two roles to fill any team.

    I personally like the niche kits on Healers, but it is dangerous because those Heroes are rarely optimal picks especially when people are bored playing standard Healers like Malfurion and Rehgar. Malfurion is seeing so much play because he is broken.

    I wish they made Supports more fun to play, for me Kharazim is the only truly fun support to play because Healing is not the centre of his kit. They really need to work on some combos from heals that deal damage. Like for example you heal a target and place some mark on them, if you use your next ability with some other effect, it triggers an AoE damage. It doesn't have to be a lot of damage, but doing something other than just healing is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    great another melee assassin.

    woo
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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    People keep asking for new support.

    Do you want more OW characters?

    Cause thats how you get more OW characters. (Ana)
    Would love Ana...

    Personally I just want more crazy ass specialists as always though.
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    I'm excited for Malthael. It's great to see a new tankbuster assassin that isn't ranged and isn't focused on pumping out as many AAs as possible for their giant killer mechanic, and he's also kind of special in the sense that he has virtually no burst damage, outside of finishing people with his R2. It's unusual to see low-burst assassins these days, and he's going to be a unique presence in lanes and teamfights.

    As for what comes next, I'd like to see another full tank (more Johanna, less D.Va) and another healing support. Not because I play a lot of either, but because those two parts of the roster really could do with a bit more fleshing out.
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    I see mistakes in initial post, the whole background thing is written on a wrong assumptions. Angels and Demons are black and white. They are order and chaos and can't act beyond these boundaries. Trag'Oul is about balance. Malthael acted like a good angel should.

    And yes, I'm hyped for him. Yay! Let's kill them all!
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    I see that Resurgence of the Storm kinda makes a return with one of Malthael's lvl 20 talents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuun View Post
    I see that Resurgence of the Storm kinda makes a return with one of Malthael's lvl 20 talents.
    I had forgotten that was a thing. That was so freaking OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    Jokes on you... it's going to be Symmetra who's really a defense
    I could totally deal with that. Turret death zones and portals, it almost makes Gaben proud!




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    So I have played Malthael. He seems very good vs heavy tank comps, but I have no idea how you are going to initiate on a range dps.
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