Lawmakers propose defunding Evergreen State amid protests

[Gemini Soul]

What the college should of done is flat out told them, they have 15mins to vacate the class room/offices and protest outside the building or get removed and arrested.

[Laerrus]

Really, who fucking cares if they are white. They are not responsible for the actions of their grandparents or ancestors.

Why is skin color so important to these kids? That in itself is racist.

As far as racism is concerned, it seems like we have regressed since the 90's.

[Draco-Onis]

Yes, Richard Spencer is the vanguard of a certain strain of right-wing extremism. I don't think people can really argue that point at all.

The obvious difference is that no one's offering Richard Spencer a posh, tenured academic position. Extreme leftism isn't very popular in mainstream American society, but it's surprisingly common in certain parts of academia. All manner of ridiculous, thoroughly discredited ideas are firmly believed and taught.

Your own biased source doesn't even show anything that remotely represent common, this is just another right wing conspiracy that ignores the fact that all our leaders come from academia. If it was so common and biased why aren't your representatives and leaders self taught people who never went to college?

[Theinquisition]

Really, who fucking cares if they are white. They are not responsible for the actions of their grandparents or ancestors.

Why is skin color so important to these kids? That in itself is racist.

As far as racism is concerned, it seems like we have regressed since the 90's.

Hell, I'd argue that we are heading straight back into the Jim Crow era, just with the roles reversed.

[rybat117]

Making someone leave their school because of race, no matter what race it is, is pretty ridiculous. In most cases I wouldn't say defunding is the right course of action, but this is a pretty crazy situation.

[Vorkreist]

Makes sense to defund a cesspool of mentally deranged sjw/commie/antifa shitheads. This should be applied to any other college that feels the need to go overboard and do active stupid shit based on their retarded ideologies.

[Mehrunes]

He didn't put crazy in his name for no reason. Lacking sanity is the norm with the commie posters around here.

Edit: Just look at the nutters above and below me.

Hear that @Spectral, you're a nutter commie now. Never mind that you criticize the college and the students. After all, can't expect posters like someone praising jingoism to follow written word. Hell, even Krazy, with all his flaws (like the monumental hypocrisy when it comes to anything anti-SJW post Trump's election) is a far cry from a communist. Don't use words you don't understand.

Ever notice how "anti-racist" activists are always telling us how terrible colleges are and how racist colleges are and how unwelcome they feel there, then in the next breath they mention that they never, ever want to leave and they definitely need administrative sinecures like diversity coordinator to rectify the terrible racism? Gee, it's almost like the whole thing is just a racket.

Well, I don't follow US colleges all that closely other than random threads on MMO-C for the most part. But given how more and more industries have wonders like diversity training, it sounds rather plausible such positions fester even more in universities.

[Theinquisition]

Making someone leave their school because of race, no matter what race it is, is pretty ridiculous. In most cases I wouldn't say defunding is the right course of action, but this is a pretty crazy situation.

In this case, an example needs to be made that a school can't openly embrace discrimination and segregation without facing consequence.

[Macaquerie]

Hell, I'd argue that we are heading straight back into the Jim Crow era, just with the roles reversed.

Well, your argument would be fucking wrong, and the fact that you are allowed to say it is some indication of that.

[Gemini Soul]

Really, who fucking cares if they are white. They are not responsible for the actions of their grandparents or ancestors.

Why is skin color so important to these kids? That in itself is racist.

As far as racism is concerned, it seems like we have regressed since the 90's.

Because knowing what their grandparents/ancestors did makes them biased and is a trigger for some.

Here is a thought, if the history and knowledge of slavery in America was wiped from everyone's mind and history books would we be more socially advanced?

[Theinquisition]

Well, your argument would be fucking wrong, and the fact that you are allowed to say it is some indication of that.

Is it really?

A school student body, supported by the school administration is FORCING people off campus because of their skin color. When confronted by a professor who disagrees (and who is incredibly progressive by his own admission), he is threatened with violence.

UCLA is proposing African American only dorms and other schools are considering minority only "safe zones" where White people wouldn't be allowed.

While saying that we are entering a new jim crow ear is a bit of a stretch (and tongue in cheek humor) we seem to certainly be heading that way.

[Vorkreist]

I see the article didn't mention the fake death threats made to look like some right wing shit. At what point and how many laws have to be shit on until these confused children understand that what they are doing is no ok?

[Gemini Soul]

UCLA is proposing African American only dorms and other schools are considering minority only "safe zones" where White people wouldn't be allowed.

They can propose that all they want but it will never happen, would be illegal if they did it under anti-segregation and discrimination laws. Also a huge PR nightmare "Students sue school demanding they move African American students from regular dorms to the AA only dorms to make room for other students in the shared dorms" could you imagine applying to the school of your dreams and finding out you have to pay extra for living off campus because of a situation like that.

[Theinquisition]

They can propose that all they want but it will never happen, would be illegal if they did it under anti-segregation and discrimination laws. Also a huge PR nightmare "Students sue school demanding they move African American students from regular dorms to the AA only dorms to make room for other students in the shared dorms" could you imagine applying to the school of your dreams and finding out you have to pay extra for living off campus because of a situation like that.

well in a sane world, if the idea of segregation or discriminatory policies were brought forth for consideration before a university, that it would be laughed out of the room. Unfortunately, not only are these policies being debated, it seems they have the support of certain administrations.

[Spectral]

Your own biased source doesn't even show anything that remotely represent common, this is just another right wing conspiracy that ignores the fact that all our leaders come from academia. If it was so common and biased why aren't your representatives and leaders self taught people who never went to college?

You can't possibly be asking this in a noncynical, honest fashion.

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In this case, an example needs to be made that a school can't openly embrace discrimination and segregation without facing consequence.

I think a private university should be able to do so if they like; I'm a huge proponent of freedom of association.

The issue here is a public institution engaging in rank discrimination and deliberately creating racial divides and animus.

[Deleted]

The threat of defunding is obviously that any institution can become the subject of political football with schools forced to kow tow to the political concerns of whatever party dominates their respective state. Plus institutions depend on that degree of independence to help their relative neutrality.

So basically you are saying. Everything is okay now. If a college would teach Nazi race theory and eugenics. This would be their good right and completely acceptable. There is no just cause to defund them even then. Because at it's core that alongside a "slippery slope" is what you are saying. That institutions such as universities should be allowed to engage in anything and everything and the tax payer should be forced to fund it.

In a way that's rich, coming from the same crowd who rioted over a bakery not wanting to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

Defunding is effectively killing the institution which is bad because we need the institution. Really what needs to be done is active measures sieze back control of Evergreen and put a president and staff who will crush them and possibly end some careers.

"Need the institution.." how and why? Evergreen has an acceptance rate of 98%. It is not some elite college. It's a basin for rejects and failures. Most of it's courses are what created this kind of situation in the first place. If anything a better approach would be to try and salvage the students for STEM and other usefull fields in so far as they exist and trash the rest.

The mayority of the student body is in support of blatant racism, discrimination, segregation etc with their ideas pushing them beyond the pre civil rights movement area and straight into South Africa/Zimbabwe territory. Something that needs to be stopped in it's tracks or will spiral out of control and cause huge issues down the road, dangerous issues. Cracking down on them aswell as the faculty that did not only allow this to happen but actively contribute is the only way to deal with it.

I think a private university should be able to do so if they like; I'm a huge proponent of freedom of association.

The issue here is a public institution engaging in rank discrimination and deliberately creating racial divides and animus.

Pretty much. If it was a private university they would be free to do this. They're for the most part not. There is no good reason why the tax payers should fund something that effectively harms them and society at large in the long run. None.

[Draco-Onis]

The mayority of the student body is in support of blatant racism, discrimination, segregation etc with their ideas pushing them beyond the pre civil rights movement area and straight into South Africa/Zimbabwe territory.

Yes all the 5,000 students in evergreen college are one hive and the few who are making themselves look like idiots represent everyone

[Spectral]

Hear that @Spectral, you're a nutter commie now. Never mind that you criticize the college and the students. After all, can't expect posters like someone praising jingoism to follow written word. Hell, even Krazy, with all his flaws (like the monumental hypocrisy when it comes to anything anti-SJW post Trump's election) is a far cry from a communist. Don't use words you don't understand.

Yeah, who knew? What a weirdo...

Well, I don't follow US colleges all that closely other than random threads on MMO-C for the most part. But given how more and more industries have wonders like diversity training, it sounds rather plausible such positions fester even more in universities.

It's certainly a booming business!

It also helps (at least in part) explain why these sorts of groups that claim to be "anti-racist" are so inclined to foster racial animus - it's good for business. If you go to school for something that's likely to land you in some pointless diversitygeld sinecure, the last thing you'd ever want is people believing that universities are basically pretty nice places that don't really need diversity coordinators.

[Mafic]

It is no longer about freedom of speech when you use violence and threats. I agree with the de-funding proposal.

[Dextroden]

Yes all the 5,000 students in evergreen college are one hive and the few who are making themselves look like idiots represent everyone

That's exactly how this works. Remember, this whole country is racist because some hated Obama.