Health Canada considers sweeping ban on junk food ads aimed at children and teens

[Deleted]

There are a lot of triggered conservatives in here who don't seem to understand the goal here.

Well ya, no argument there

You understand what's going on. So why place the blame on "triggered conservatives" when OP's goal is to "trigger" people?.

[Super Kami Dende]

Nothing says Authoritarian/Fascist Government than the Government banning things because they don't trust their own population to live their own lives.

[Doctor Amadeus]

What about them?, they better get their own piece of land.

So what if they just come take yours, I mean only so much land to go around right? Or are you of the belief that you can just tell any and everybody that and they will just go oh well and starve.

People won't be obligated to living the way you think that ought to either, especially when your notion stems from this idea that has been proven not to work throughout History, which is exactly what leads to wars and social unrest.


However on topic you know if you really want to grow YOUR own twinkies by all means, but the point is food that is consumed by most through the process most should be able to rely on needs to be improved, especially for the over all health of society that is living longer but afflicted by more disease.

[Super Kami Dende]

There are a lot of triggered conservatives in here who don't seem to understand the goal here. You can still buy and eat all the junk food you want, as can your kids - ads just shouldn't be targeted at kids. That's all.

You can have a Doritos commercial on your football, you can't have a Mars Bar ad during Dora The Explorer: because it gives kids an unhealthy expectation of what is food - where they can name every type of candy bar, but only a couple fruits.

There are literally no rights being removed here - just a change in messaging when marketing to kids.

But yea, that's national communism

Yeah because letting people make up their own minds and trusting parents to teach their children how the World works is totally a Conservative trait

[Doctor Amadeus]

Nothing says Authoritarian/Fascist Government than the Government banning things because they don't trust their own population to live their own lives.

Well it is proven people can't all be trusted to live their own lives, in fact it's because people can't and it effects other that there are laws, and rules in place to prevent chaos.

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Yeah because letting people make up their own minds and trusting parents to teach their children how the World works is totally a Conservative trait

I don't care if they are liberal or conservative, some people have pretty wacky bad ideas on how to do many things.

[Zoibert the Bear]

Why not let the less educated and junk food addicts destroy their own health and their families' but not ban nor prohibit anything simply because people are stupid?

I find it hilarious that those who like to call themselves liberals seem to want the most authoritarian version of a government you can come up with.

[Selah]

Supposedly parents exist for this reason but glad to see soany people would much rather just tell each other how to live.

[yetgdhfgh]

This is a tenni... oh never mind

As for whats being discussed why the fuck do people think banning advertisements will work? Dont we all just skip that shit anyway thanks to saved tv or what ever that shit is called?

Lets be real we humans fucking love sugar and fat we crave it like heroin and even if you ban adverts people will still want it and buy it.

[Deleted]

If parents fail, maybe the state should step in?

I favour a small government with minimal influence in our daily lives but at the same time I see people fail at the most basic things in life so perhaps humanity simply needs it.

[belfpala]

I find it hilarious that those who like to call themselves liberals seem to want the most authoritarian version of a government you can come up with.

"liberal" and "libertarian" are different things.

Anyway, obesity related illness is overtaking smoking as a cause of death. Advertising cigarettes to children is forbidden. Yada yada, wave my hands, hey why not.

[Deleted]

I mean, Canada doesn't go anywhere near far enough; all active advertising should be killed off completely. That is to say, people would find out about products only when they themselves go looking for the information.

I know, I know...that'd be a paradise and utopia. One can dream.

[shimerra]

Nothing says Authoritarian/Fascist Government than the Government banning things because they don't trust their own population to live their own lives.

Yeah! Damn tyrannical shitheads with their seatbelt laws and speed limits! And fuck murder laws government should just trusty people to not kill each other. All laws are stupid we should just trust people to live their lives unless they're immigrants or in any type of welfare! Then we drug test them and loose our shit when one buys lobster.

[unfilteredJW]

Who the fuck watches ads?

[Underverse]

Easy now, there's nothing wrong with cheese.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

In Quebec, adds targetted at children are already banned. Frankly, whenever I open an English Canadian channel on the TV and have the horrible luck of witnessing one of those cheezy, hyperactive adds, I swap channel ASAP.

I can't believe there are still things like that in Canada. About time.

[minteK917]

Theres nothing wrong with ads ban, hell we should ban ads period lol. No but seriously, anybody whining about these ads being banned.... you realize cigarette ads suffered the same faith right? Are you missing them? Plus in many places ads targeted on children are banned period. Banning the ads, doesent mean the product is.

[Sesshou]

There are a lot of triggered conservatives in here who don't seem to understand the goal here. You can still buy and eat all the junk food you want, as can your kids - ads just shouldn't be targeted at kids. That's all.

I don't really see a problem with restricting advertisements for certain types of products. I have a problem with acting like something is a solution when it isn't even close. The parents buy the junk food. Yeah, kids probably have an allowance and can buy *some* but not nearly enough to get fat just from that. The real link to childhood obesity isn't what the kids see on tv and want nor is it the one meal a day kids have in school.

The problem is what parents are buying and feeding their kids at home. You pretty much never see fat kids with thin/fit parents. On the other hand, fat parents are pretty clearly in a lot of cases feeding their kids the same crap that made them fat. If mom and dad are buying junk food to make themselves fat, obviously it is going to be there for the kids to eat. You know what is a better advertisement than an actual advertisement? A kid seeing their parents eat the stuff all the time.

I don't know that I agree with restricting ads for products that are perfectly fine when used in moderation, but I do agree obesity is a serious problem and I hate ads... The thing about junk food is that you can have, for example, 1 can of soda a day with no problems. This isn't on the level of cigarettes where not only would 1 a day still be bad for you, but they're highly addictive. That said, if you wanted to go after ads, the ads you need to go after are the ones getting the adults who are actually paying for the goods.

Or maybe instead of restricting ads, add a new regulation that for every X seconds of ads aired for unhealthy foods they have to air Y seconds of PSA that quickly explain to parents how they're killing their kids if they're feeding them junk that makes them obese. Rev up those protective parental instincts.

[LedZeppelin]

Mother
Can you keep them in the dark for life
Can you hide them from the waiting world
Oh mother

[Magicpot]

Who gets to decide what counts as 'unhealthy'? How exactly are you going to go about 'banning' foods? How are you going to manage to justify it? Do you really think the Supreme Court is going to uphold the legislation, IF you some how manage to get a law passed?

Nutritional advisors and academic professionals familiar in the topic.

I'm not for banning foods btw but you could slap a 100% tax on anything unhealthy and see how quickly that market dies.
In the same way you should target drugs like alcohol, tobacco, caffeine and others like marijuana with such a tax. They should all be legal, yes, but if you're gonna burden the health care system of your society with your bad habits, you'll pay for it.

Or, if it doens't, at least the government gets enough revenue to treat the diseases that originate from the consumption more equitably.

[Kolbjorn]

Why not let the less educated and junk food addicts destroy their own health and their families' but not ban nor prohibit anything simply because people are stupid?

I bet you blame Obama for insurance premiums rising too.

Hint: You're subsidizing the healthcare costs of people "destroying their own health".

So - whose rights prevail, the rights of irresponsible people to do irresponsible (or just uneducated) things, or the right of responsible people to have reasonable insurance premiums?

It's actually very similar to health care... the United States is the only country that allows direct to consumer pharm advertising too. Shockingly, we consume a ridiculous amount of pharm too, with no real world medical benefit...