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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    You might want to reconsider your other posts in here because they're clearly made to spite the OP and provoke a response. In your own words, you could've just ignored this thread if you didn't like it. Live as you preach.
    I don't hate the thread, im just talking. Nice try.

    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    "Let them troll, why should anyone care?"

    What about the idea to get some level into the off topic and the political part to discuss interesting topics? And not "Bwah Sweden immigrants raped a gnome bwah bwah random youtube evidence inside blm antifa nazis!"-threads made by a weekend forums troll who had a bad day?

    If you dont apply strict moderation to a political offtopic forum, threads will become exactly as like the title i posted.
    Them go to a real political forum if you aren't satisfied. It's as easy as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    I reported my ass off. Just to make it clear i reported it. And no, i didnt spam anyone. I reported it once. Wrote a private mail 3 days later to a mod, and another one later to the globals.
    It usually takes a day or two for a mod to respond to a PM. But I've also brought up this issue of uneven moderating. Yesterday in fact. I do think they're too lenient and polite about the obvious baits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I don't hate the thread, im just talking. Nice try.
    Nice try at what? You've clearly no intention of discussing this. You're here to provoke reactions. Your aggression and snark is completely unneeded and pointless and will serve you nothing but punishment.

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    If a title of a thread "triggers" me I don't click it.

    I know its hard for some people, I understand that, but I have this notion of "this title looks like something thats going to annoy me better not go here". It's a matter of will.

    But then again I am the type of guy who doesn't have a facebook or twitter, has never been been to 4chan or reddit, and has a plug-in that disables Youtube comments... The internet is a very trigger inducing place and it feels like you wanna strangle everyone, follow my example and take your own action against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    It usually takes a day or two for a mod to respond to a PM. But I've also brought up this issue of uneven moderating. Yesterday in fact. I do think they're too lenient and polite about the obvious baits.
    I dont want to criticize the moderators. They are all doing that without payment, and i understand moderating a forum can be a problematic job. I want to talk about the idea to add a more strict moderation to the off topic forums. Thats all.
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaplaceNoMa View Post
    Well, people propagating enforcement of their world views with violence ARE fascists.

    Also, it's amazing how someone who believes that NatSoc is right wing accuses anyone of 'trolling'.
    No. Anarchists are not facists.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

    NatSoc standing for National Socialists? They are rightwing because it's Nazism. It doesn't get much more rightwing than that.
    https://www.google.se/search?q=what+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    I dont want to criticize the moderators. They are all doing that without payment, and i understand moderating a forum can be a problematic job. I want to talk about the idea to add a more strict moderation to the off topic forums. Thats all.
    Well the OT forums are, as a mod put it, "a completely different duck" and there is always something going down there. I'm not sure how that should be handled. We could just remove it, or entirely stop all political discussion. It would save time and trouble.

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    Jesus fucking christ. All this ''Ehrmagherd triggered'' stuff is getting out of hand.

    Quoting the post you linked: '' I'm gonna make my case for why I think Antifa are Nazis''. It's a post about a guy giving his opinion on why he thinks that antifas are like nazis based on their way to do their things. Is that so fucking hard to understand?

    If you don't understand that someone on the internet has the right to give their opinion on basically anything, just like some people think that the Earth is actually flat, then turn off your browser and don't come back ever again. Or just filter the internet based on what you think is right or wrong. But coming here complaining about what others do is bullshit. It triggers me :^]

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    If you are able to prove that a topic started is an outright lie, and if it actually triggers emotional reactions, you can be sure it is trolling.

    An opinion is no lie, but a lie also is no other opinion.
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    It usually takes a day or two for a mod to respond to a PM. But I've also brought up this issue of uneven moderating. Yesterday in fact. I do think they're too lenient and polite about the obvious baits.

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    Nice try at what? You've clearly no intention of discussing this. You're here to provoke reactions. Your aggression and snark is completely unneeded and pointless and will serve you nothing but punishment.
    What snark? His complaints have fallen on deaf ears and then makes a thread complaining about it. The advice of go to another forum is perfectly valid.

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    This is a private website and they may enforce whatever rules they please, as they please, when they please and we have no say in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    Getting this upset over someones opinion, especially when you just think its some rando on an internet forum being wrong about his opinion which has no effect on anything in any capacity, nor will it ever do so, really says more about you than a need to get out the pitchforks and rile up a virtual lynch mob.

    This isn't tumblr. The ignore button exists for a reason.
    Such absurd hyperbole. You're attributing things to the OP that aren't there.
    Some people care, even if you don't they have principles of not being able to ignore bad or damaging opinions. So let them. If it truly doesn't matter to you, then you wouldn't be in here either. It evidently does matter or you'd not even have posted this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    What snark? His complaints have fallen on deaf ears and then makes a thread complaining about it. The advice of go to another forum is perfectly valid.

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    You seem to have been triggered. You're free to not browse these forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Well you're complaing about not getting the response you want and you want threads deleted/locked when you don't like them. You can go find a hugbox somewhere else.
    It's entirely non-constructive, inflammatory and toxic. You aren't discussing.

    Yes indeed it's their website and their rules, but he's still entirely allowed and capable of having a say about it if he wants to. WHich he does. Wether YOU like it or not. Those ARE the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    If you are able to prove that a topic started is an outright lie, and if it actually triggers emotional reactions, you can be sure it is trolling.

    An opinion is no lie, but a lie also is no other opinion.
    Its his opinion based on the way those idiots acted at the G20 summit. Nice try with the whole "its a lie if its something i don't agree with" bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    If you are able to prove that a topic started is an outright lie, and if it actually triggers emotional reactions, you can be sure it is trolling.

    An opinion is no lie, but a lie also is no other opinion.
    Best thing is to just report it and move on. Trust me, any effort and time on such a time is entirely wasted. It's best to save yourself some sanity and ignore it. It is possible to actually ignore peoples posts, if you go into their profile. It just ain't worth bothering with some posters, so it's best to report and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    Such absurd hyperbole. You're attributing things to the OP that aren't there.
    Some people care, even if you don't they have principles of not being able to ignore bad or damaging opinions. So let them. If it truly doesn't matter to you, then you wouldn't be in here either. It evidently does matter or you'd not even have posted this.

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    This.




    It's entirely non-constructive, inflammatory and toxic. You aren't discussing.

    Yes indeed it's their website and their rules, but he's still entirely allowed and capable of having a say about it if he wants to. WHich he does. Wether YOU like it or not. Those ARE the rules.
    But you said we have no say in it. So which is it? Only when you agree about something you have a say in it? Way to just flip-flop as you feel like. Man, people are funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    No. Anarchists are not facists.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

    NatSoc standing for National Socialists? They are rightwing because it's Nazism. It doesn't get much more rightwing than that.
    https://www.google.se/search?q=what+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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    Well the OT forums are, as a mod put it, "a completely different duck" and there is always something going down there. I'm not sure how that should be handled. We could just remove it, or entirely stop all political discussion. It would save time and trouble.
    I don't think you even remotely understand what the terms 'left' and 'right' mean. 'Anarchism' is not compatible with the idea of enforcement, same as 'authoritarianism' is incompatible with the ideas of free market. To make it as laymantermish as possible, left-wing is the collectivistic idea that 'you will do what we consider right' (and it doesn't matter who this 'we' is - whether it's decided by nation, class, or anything else), while right is the individualistic idea that 'you can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't directly hurt others'.

    So, to make it short, left-libertarian and right-authoritarian are oxymorons. Any form of socialism is authoritorian and left-wing in its nature; and people who aggressively attack others are NOT anarchists, that's a meme taught to you by bullshit like rage against the machine etc. And any form of free market / little to no government is right-wing.
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    The unfortunate fact of the matter is that many, many people in wow are very passionate in their obsession with acting like a complete retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    Best thing is to just report it and move on. Trust me, any effort and time on such a time is entirely wasted. It's best to save yourself some sanity and ignore it. It is possible to actually ignore peoples posts, if you go into their profile. It just ain't worth bothering with some posters, so it's best to report and move on.
    Probably you are right here.
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhackin View Post
    ^^^This guy represents the exact point of the 'Antifa are Nazis' thread. Your approach for eliminating fascism is to use aggressive fascism and suppression of opinions/voices. And you literally can't see the hypocrisy that you practice. Essentially straight from the Rules for Radicals playbook.
    Except we're on a gaming forum that without somewhat strict moderation can quickly turn into a cesspool like several other online forums. Have you seen the comment section on facebook and how little constructive conversation goes on there where the only form of moderation is essentially preventing nudity from being posting? It's a bunch of fucking idiots just insulting each other.

    How is asking for better moderation to prevent obvious trolling using "aggressive fascism"?

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    We do close threads if they are clearly there just to mess with people and not to spark any real discussion. If you see something you think is baiting and not trying to actually start a convo do report it and we'll evaluate if we agree with that or not.

    Closing the thread because it's just basically about complaining about moderation and isn't getting anyone anywhere. Thanks

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